MR Springs Feedback Thread , Got springs on ur MR? GO HERE!!
Jan 19, 2006, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by EvoIXMR
Sorry for the noob question: Does Espelir make only 1 set of springs for both the regular and MR versions? Thanks!
Swift and Works seem to list 2 different versions!
Thanks!
Swift and Works seem to list 2 different versions!
Thanks!
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Francis@aspec
Jan 19, 2006, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by A-SPEC
Actually, Espelir makes 2 different versions of springs but neither of them are MR specific (which is why I don't recommend Espelir for the MR). Although they are good springs, they are not designed for the MR's Bilsteins (which was discussed earlier in this thread.
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Francis@aspec
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Francis@aspec
props to francis @ A-SPEC
Feb 3, 2006, 09:22 PM
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Here are some pics of my 06' MR with the WORKS Ride springs. All I have to say is - get them for your MR, you will love them. The car actually rides better than stock and can take corners harder than stock. I find these springs really reduce body roll when pushing the car through the twistes. I also dig the stance of my MR with these WORKS springs - it's nice and even and not to low. IMHO the springs lower the car "just right".
One word of advice. If you do get the WORKS MR Ride springs, get them with the bumpstops.
One word of advice. If you do get the WORKS MR Ride springs, get them with the bumpstops.
Feb 13, 2006, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by A-SPEC
What I don't like about the Espelir's is the fact that they are not designed for the MR's softer suspension (yes, the Bilsteins are softer). The rates of the Espelir are really designed for a non-MR Evo with more aggressively valved shocks. So, putting a spring to a shock that is not designed to withstand the stiffer rate can ultimately result in shock damage. Also, the drop of the Espelir springs reduces the overall travel of the stock shock so the dampening ability is reduced. All this translates into rougher (albeit more aggressive) ride with risk of damage to the OEM Bilsteins.
The advertised rate for the Swifts is as follows: 4.8kg/mm front, 5.6kg/mm rear, -35mm drop front, -20mm rear. Again, these rates have been specifically designed for the MR's less aggressive valving. Also, the decreased drop will maximize the travel of the shock so there is no short stroking whatsoever. Swifts H5S.TW is within 3% of the spring rate from 20% stroke to 70% stroke (the average stroke range for most road race motorsports). Swift tests the spring rate through the entire stroke to provide the best of the best.
As far as construction goes, the Espelir (and most other springs on the market) is a hot wound spring using standard silicone-chrome materials. Hot winding means that the spring is super heated in order to coil. This actually weakens the springs strength and makes it more brittle as it is heated and cooled. Swift's are cold wound to preserve the tensile strength. Furthermore, the silicone-chrome alloy is much heaver than the H5S.TW alloy that Swift uses and requires more material and more coils to achieve the desired rate. Bottom line is the Swifts are lighter (about 1.5-2lbs each) and stronger.
Like I said before, I'm not biased towards Swift simply because we sell them. We are an official dealer of Swift as well as Espelir. I'm just stating my opinions from a consumer standpoint.
For more information about Swift, check out http://www.swiftsprings.com/index.as...on=Custom&ID=3 . There is a wealth of information there that will probably help out.
Ultimately, you need to try them for yourself. Hope this helps!
Regards,
Francis@aspec
The advertised rate for the Swifts is as follows: 4.8kg/mm front, 5.6kg/mm rear, -35mm drop front, -20mm rear. Again, these rates have been specifically designed for the MR's less aggressive valving. Also, the decreased drop will maximize the travel of the shock so there is no short stroking whatsoever. Swifts H5S.TW is within 3% of the spring rate from 20% stroke to 70% stroke (the average stroke range for most road race motorsports). Swift tests the spring rate through the entire stroke to provide the best of the best.
As far as construction goes, the Espelir (and most other springs on the market) is a hot wound spring using standard silicone-chrome materials. Hot winding means that the spring is super heated in order to coil. This actually weakens the springs strength and makes it more brittle as it is heated and cooled. Swift's are cold wound to preserve the tensile strength. Furthermore, the silicone-chrome alloy is much heaver than the H5S.TW alloy that Swift uses and requires more material and more coils to achieve the desired rate. Bottom line is the Swifts are lighter (about 1.5-2lbs each) and stronger.
Like I said before, I'm not biased towards Swift simply because we sell them. We are an official dealer of Swift as well as Espelir. I'm just stating my opinions from a consumer standpoint.
For more information about Swift, check out http://www.swiftsprings.com/index.as...on=Custom&ID=3 . There is a wealth of information there that will probably help out.
Ultimately, you need to try them for yourself. Hope this helps!
Regards,
Francis@aspec
Feb 24, 2006, 08:44 PM
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I have installed Tein S, Ksport coilovers and Hotchkis.
Tein S is slammed. A bit extreme.
Ksport's highest setting is way low also, I don't like them.
Hotchkis I think are the best available and am trying to find time to throw these on ours.
Tein S is slammed. A bit extreme.
Ksport's highest setting is way low also, I don't like them.
Hotchkis I think are the best available and am trying to find time to throw these on ours.