Anyone try 16x9 Volks w/ stock brakes??? How wide an offset???
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Anyone try 16x9 Volks w/ stock brakes??? How wide an offset???
Okay I need to know who has tried test fitting 16x9 volks or any 16" wheel over the stock brakes.
I have made a similar thread before and noobs that knew absolutely nothing were saying.....why would u put 16's when 17's come stock from mitsu??? blah blah.....it wont fit blah blah......its a stupid idea blah blah.....well long story short those noobs dont know $hit and plenty of race teams are running 16's. But I have not seen it done w/ stock brakes.
I am trying to see if they will fit without actually buying them first and test fitting them. I know that there is a good amount of space between the front calipers and the inside of the wheel, but I just want to see if anyone has done it.
I am trying to do this so I can run a light 16" wheel and some taller sidewall slicks (RA1's).
If anyone has pics of it done on stock brakes that would be great! Thanks for all the help. And all the haters that dont understand the benefits of a smaller lighter wheel just keep the stupid lame comments to yourself this time so you don't look so dumb and go have fun being a stunner w/ your 20" spinners.
I have made a similar thread before and noobs that knew absolutely nothing were saying.....why would u put 16's when 17's come stock from mitsu??? blah blah.....it wont fit blah blah......its a stupid idea blah blah.....well long story short those noobs dont know $hit and plenty of race teams are running 16's. But I have not seen it done w/ stock brakes.
I am trying to see if they will fit without actually buying them first and test fitting them. I know that there is a good amount of space between the front calipers and the inside of the wheel, but I just want to see if anyone has done it.
I am trying to do this so I can run a light 16" wheel and some taller sidewall slicks (RA1's).
If anyone has pics of it done on stock brakes that would be great! Thanks for all the help. And all the haters that dont understand the benefits of a smaller lighter wheel just keep the stupid lame comments to yourself this time so you don't look so dumb and go have fun being a stunner w/ your 20" spinners.
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All four-pot brake systems will require a 17" rim.
EDIT: Well Rotora is now making a "mini 4-pot" system for certain apps., but will they'll make it for the evo? I highly doubt it. Besides Im sure there would be a slight decline in braking peformance.
EDIT: Well Rotora is now making a "mini 4-pot" system for certain apps., but will they'll make it for the evo? I highly doubt it. Besides Im sure there would be a slight decline in braking peformance.
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I am going to run my 16x7 volks on my IX. They clear the brakes with a 15mm spacer. The offset is 46mm. working backwards a 16x9 with the same 46mm offset would still have 25mm more offset because the rim is two inches wider. But you wont get the full 25mm because the spokes will bend inward (side profile) as the rim increases in width.
Te37 are only available in 16x 8.5 30mm offset. They should be perfect.
The ce28 is available in 8.5 and 9 width. The 8.5 is 30mm. the 9.0 comes in 35mm and 43mm offset.
Te37 are only available in 16x 8.5 30mm offset. They should be perfect.
The ce28 is available in 8.5 and 9 width. The 8.5 is 30mm. the 9.0 comes in 35mm and 43mm offset.
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Originally Posted by SSIXProject
All four-pot brake systems will require a 17" rim.
If the TE37's 4G63Rules plans to use don't fit there is always custom.
While I was looking for 16" wheels for a skinnier snow tire, I came across a guy posting on the EVO Norcal site located in Tahoe that had custom 16" wheels on his EVO. He got them from Anglo American Racing in Arizona I believe. They aren't pretty and are actually manufactured in the UK but he was sick of swapping out his OEM calipers for smaller Rally units every winter to use other 16" wheels and snow tires in the winter. Can't say I blame him either.
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Sorry JDM, but I am someone taking over sales for the company
VVVVVVV, but who did you know over here?
You guys are right about my statement, but isn't Value also right? You can run custom but wouldnt you be giving up tire selection? Are you avoiding the caliper with a high offset and a spacer?
Dont get me wrong I see the advantages of running a smaller rim, but I didnt think the barrel would clear a stock caliper... guess you learn something new everyday
VVVVVVV, but who did you know over here?
You guys are right about my statement, but isn't Value also right? You can run custom but wouldnt you be giving up tire selection? Are you avoiding the caliper with a high offset and a spacer?
Dont get me wrong I see the advantages of running a smaller rim, but I didnt think the barrel would clear a stock caliper... guess you learn something new everyday
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Originally Posted by 4G63Rules
Te37 are only available in 16x 8.5 30mm offset. They should be perfect. The ce28 is available in 8.5 and 9 width. The 8.5 is 30mm. the 9.0 comes in 35mm and 43mm offset.
If you run with the Volk TE37 in 16x8.0 in a +15mm offset you get the concave / GTR Face and the spoke's should curve enough to clear the calipars with a like 5 - 10mm spacer. I beleive the Volk CE28N 10spoke 16x9.0 goes down to a +25mm offset. Again not sure of the fitment because of the design of the wheel on the inside near the calipar.
What size tire where you thinking of running?
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This just for those who want to see what 16x8.0 would actually look like swallowing some brembo's
Volk Racing TE37 - 16x8.0 +15 ET (225/50/16)
Now this screams racecar
Volk Racing TE37 - 16x8.0 +15 ET (225/50/16)
Now this screams racecar
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Originally Posted by Mr Chef
That's a very broad statement and incorrrect as well.
If the TE37's 4G63Rules plans to use don't fit there is always custom.
While I was looking for 16" wheels for a skinnier snow tire, I came across a guy posting on the EVO Norcal site located in Tahoe that had custom 16" wheels on his EVO. He got them from Anglo American Racing in Arizona I believe. They aren't pretty and are actually manufactured in the UK but he was sick of swapping out his OEM calipers for smaller Rally units every winter to use other 16" wheels and snow tires in the winter. Can't say I blame him either.
If the TE37's 4G63Rules plans to use don't fit there is always custom.
While I was looking for 16" wheels for a skinnier snow tire, I came across a guy posting on the EVO Norcal site located in Tahoe that had custom 16" wheels on his EVO. He got them from Anglo American Racing in Arizona I believe. They aren't pretty and are actually manufactured in the UK but he was sick of swapping out his OEM calipers for smaller Rally units every winter to use other 16" wheels and snow tires in the winter. Can't say I blame him either.
Some lousy pics of them. These pics were done with the first set. I sent them back for a little extra clearance. The offset is about 2mm more than stock. I can also change the inside half ($180)and get an 8 inch width.
16's and slicks. Sounds like someone is building a drag car. I'd keep two things in mind. I wouldn't want my tires sticking out farther than stock. Creates too much drag. Especially with trap speeds in excess of 130+. 2nd, and probably not a big deal, big spacers with longer studs, 600+ hp, slicks on 16's, sounds like a dnf in the final round of a national.
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Actually this post was for road race reasons.
Benefits of a smaller rim assuming the same tire sidewall height:
-More aggressive gearing
-Lighter total possible weight
-Bringing the tire(bulk weight) of the rim/tire combo closer to the center, which means faster acceleration and improved braking.
-cheaper tire
So the benefits (to me at least) outweigh the costs, and I think that it would be beneficial for stock brake use. But now that I am considering the larger stasis/alcon setup, I don't know exactly what I'm going to do.
Benefits of a smaller rim assuming the same tire sidewall height:
-More aggressive gearing
-Lighter total possible weight
-Bringing the tire(bulk weight) of the rim/tire combo closer to the center, which means faster acceleration and improved braking.
-cheaper tire
So the benefits (to me at least) outweigh the costs, and I think that it would be beneficial for stock brake use. But now that I am considering the larger stasis/alcon setup, I don't know exactly what I'm going to do.