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Old Jan 30, 2007, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by blackbichGSX
I don't know why everyone keeps bringing up the weight issue. The weights are the same, within a half pound.

Rota's are not heavy wheels and as for the quality who knows, I don't know what alloys the companies use so this could come into play. I have not heard of anyone breaking either wheel so it was never a thought in my head.'

There are alot of people with the FN01RC, but everyone has the bronze, silver, matte black, and hyper black. I have only seen two cars with the FN01RC's in the gloss black.
Rotas ARE heavy. They are cheap cast wheels so what do you expect? I dont know what the 5Zigens weigh but a Volk TE37 in 18x9.5 weighs like 17lbs to the Rotas 22 lbs or whatever. That is just one example of course. Now try to turn that. It will make a difference in acceleration. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the P45Rs! For a DD I think they look sick for the money. But if you are going to race then I would get something lighter. Just my thoughts though.
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Originally Posted by hokiruu
If you want original wheels, don't get the FN01RC, eeryone and their grandma has them. They are probably the higher quality wheels of the two though. If you don't like the polished centers then just get a different color. P45Rs look sweet, but face it, they are not the more practical, lighter, or higher quality wheel.
+1 on the FN01RC's being higher quality than the Rota's.. Seems like a TON of people run these though, maybe because they're relatively cheap?
Old Jan 30, 2007, 09:34 AM
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where are you going to get these 5zigens anyways??? Who has them in stock?
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Oh yeah, the spacer required for the P45R, that was one of the deterrents for me against the P45R. I love the way P45R's look better though!
Old Jan 31, 2007, 01:06 AM
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Go with the P45R's! I have them and they look sick! Haven't really noticed any issues with them and I'm running them in the snow and ****!
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Originally Posted by TURBevO8
Rotas ARE heavy. They are cheap cast wheels so what do you expect? I dont know what the 5Zigens weigh but a Volk TE37 in 18x9.5 weighs like 17lbs to the Rotas 22 lbs or whatever. That is just one example of course. Now try to turn that. It will make a difference in acceleration. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the P45Rs! For a DD I think they look sick for the money. But if you are going to race then I would get something lighter. Just my thoughts though.
Of course Volks are light but not everyone can affored 2000 dollar rims to go trash autoxing or road racing on the weekends, you have absolutely no proof that they are cheap cast wheels, they are no different than the 5zigens which weight the exact same weight...
Old Jan 31, 2007, 08:57 AM
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Imo the 5zigens quailty is questionable, at least the crappy paint they put on it.
I've had a set in bronze color on my last car and the paint started to fade/chip after a year. Dunno...
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I think all three of those rims look very small. Look like 16" rims IMO.
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Originally Posted by gaulrich2003
I think all three of those rims look very small. Look like 16" rims IMO.
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Old Jan 31, 2007, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Ultimate CC
Of course Volks are light but not everyone can affored 2000 dollar rims to go trash autoxing or road racing on the weekends, you have absolutely no proof that they are cheap cast wheels, they are no different than the 5zigens which weight the exact same weight...
Well yes I do have proof. The weight, and the price. Subiedude says the P45R is 23lbs in that size and you can get them shipped for around $1700 with 265/35R18 tires.

I never said I liked the 5Zigens. I actually said between the two I would go with the Rotas. But I also said that if he wants a good rim for autox this would be toward the bottom of my list. For daily driving it would be at the top of my list due to practicality (such as potholes, curbs, road construction crap) and price. But for racing I think they would be too heavy.
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Black on Black P45
http://www.norcalevo.net/index.php?o...&topic=15835.0
Matte Black on Silver 5Zigens
http://www.autoblog.com/2006/10/16/r...-tuned-evo-mr/

I know it's not a white evo, but they are both wide wheels, so that it give an idea of what they would look like.
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Originally Posted by TURBevO8
Well yes I do have proof. The weight, and the price. Subiedude says the P45R is 23lbs in that size and you can get them shipped for around $1700 with 265/35R18 tires.

I never said I liked the 5Zigens. I actually said between the two I would go with the Rotas. But I also said that if he wants a good rim for autox this would be toward the bottom of my list. For daily driving it would be at the top of my list due to practicality (such as potholes, curbs, road construction crap) and price. But for racing I think they would be too heavy.
funny cause a lot of the top autoxer in the sm class with evos run the 5 zigens which are same wieght, it all depends on your bank account, i personally couldn't afford to go with volks for racing so i would use the rota or 5zigne...
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What is wrong with running stock rims for autox? Run some good rubber on the stockers and keep the 23lb Rotas for the street. That is what I am doing this year.
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If your car is white, go with 5zigen in bronze. white with black rim/polished lip is wayyyy overplayed and looks tacky imo. honeslty, go find white cars with some nice bronze and you'll see thier sex.
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Originally Posted by TURBevO8
What is wrong with running stock rims for autox? Run some good rubber on the stockers and keep the 23lb Rotas for the street. That is what I am doing this year.
some people want to be more competitive in the classes like bsp and sm and to do so you need a 18x9.5 with a 285 tire...


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