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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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255 will fit, but i would go with 245s thats what iam running right now, same tire.
Old Mar 29, 2007 | 01:03 PM
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I told them to release the tires for shipping.

I figured I don't drive the car much. My DD is a dsm awd.

I had the falkens on my srt 50trim and loved them, but I was concerned with the width when DTD held the order for the sizing. That kind of freaked me out some. Also, the fact I'm a little pissed they didn't contact me and just held the account until contact was made. My # was good, but they never tried to call.. BISHES!

Anyone have close up pics of Falken 255/40's on stock wheels?
Old Mar 29, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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I read the title of this thread and thought the tires where not in production anymore...
Talk about misleading title ... I was like WTF!
Old Mar 29, 2007 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by cij911
Actually you really want as little tire on the ground as possible for a street / performance tire. Generally a wider tire will weigh more and will provide more drag which is not a good thing in road racing. Drag racing, the formula is a bit different. Obviously there are trade offs when running big HP cars, but for a street tire, the stock size is fine.
Chris, where are you coming up with all this stuff???? I haven't agreed with ANYTHING you've said in this thread. The RT-615s in the 255/40 are known to be the best thing going for the stock rims without spending $1000 on the A046s or Michelin Pilot Sports. The 255 fits BEAUTIFULLy, there is no rubbing, they aren't heavier, and they don't have a larger diameter. The 235/45 has a larger aspect ratio (45 vs 40), which keeps the overal diameter in check. They provide more contact patch, and that is a big deal for all types of driving/racing. I don't know why you said a wider tire is NOT A GOOD THING FOR ROAD RACING. Holy crap, I have 285s for when I road race. They are WAYYYY faster than my previous 245/45s that were the same exact brand (Kumho V710). There is of course a drag aspect, but it's not nearlly as important as the increased grip.

I have also shown through pics that there is no bulge whatsoever and have shown great track results with these 255/40 RT-615s. They perform very well on track, and they are slightly better than the stock Advans in the rain. I can't imagine wanting to sacrifice performance just to get better rain traction when the Evo doesn't even come with tires that fit that profile.
Old Mar 29, 2007 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by tweakdsm
255 will fit, but i would go with 245s thats what iam running right now, same tire.
You recommend them because that's what you have, or you recommend them, because you have evidence that they are better? If you have a 245 RT-615, then it's a 245/45, which means it's TALLER than the stock tire, which is NOT good. That means you have a significantly larger overall tire diameter, which is what we try to avoid.
Old Mar 29, 2007 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Chris, where are you coming up with all this stuff???? I haven't agreed with ANYTHING you've said in this thread. The RT-615s in the 255/40 are known to be the best thing going for the stock rims without spending $1000 on the A046s or Michelin Pilot Sports. The 255 fits BEAUTIFULLy, there is no rubbing, they aren't heavier, and they don't have a larger diameter. The 235/45 has a larger aspect ratio (45 vs 40), which keeps the overal diameter in check. They provide more contact patch, and that is a big deal for all types of driving/racing. I don't know why you said a wider tire is NOT A GOOD THING FOR ROAD RACING. Holy crap, I have 285s for when I road race. They are WAYYYY faster than my previous 245/45s that were the same exact brand (Kumho V710). There is of course a drag aspect, but it's not nearlly as important as the increased grip.

I have also shown through pics that there is no bulge whatsoever and have shown great track results with these 255/40 RT-615s. They perform very well on track, and they are slightly better than the stock Advans in the rain. I can't imagine wanting to sacrifice performance just to get better rain traction when the Evo doesn't even come with tires that fit that profile.
Clay -- (1) The tire 255/ 40 is a different tire diameter than the stock 235 / 45, at least according to my calculator -- true it is not a huge difference. (2) As I stated there are tradeoffs and generally for a street car one does not need to get a wider tire to improve performance. I am not going to get in a pissing match about how wide a tire you run on your nicely modded evo. Optimally a driver wants to get the maximum rubber needed for the power, weight, and car suspension -- for a street car (which the OP said it was) and non modded car, a 235/45 should be fine. Finally (3) I ordered the 615s from VIP only to have them tell me to get the MX instead because the 615s were rubbing on Marty's car.

I am sorry you did not agree / follow my logic, but it is based upon a fair bit of experience. If anyone wants to get professional advice on street tires, I would recommend talking to Neal or others at Tire Rack or contact BFG Racing or Goodyear Racing for nice race tires.
Old Mar 29, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Chris, where are you coming up with all this stuff???? I haven't agreed with ANYTHING you've said in this thread. The RT-615s in the 255/40 are known to be the best thing going for the stock rims without spending $1000 on the A046s or Michelin Pilot Sports. The 255 fits BEAUTIFULLy, there is no rubbing, they aren't heavier, and they don't have a larger diameter. The 235/45 has a larger aspect ratio (45 vs 40), which keeps the overal diameter in check. They provide more contact patch, and that is a big deal for all types of driving/racing. I don't know why you said a wider tire is NOT A GOOD THING FOR ROAD RACING. Holy crap, I have 285s for when I road race. They are WAYYYY faster than my previous 245/45s that were the same exact brand (Kumho V710). There is of course a drag aspect, but it's not nearlly as important as the increased grip.

I have also shown through pics that there is no bulge whatsoever and have shown great track results with these 255/40 RT-615s. They perform very well on track, and they are slightly better than the stock Advans in the rain. I can't imagine wanting to sacrifice performance just to get better rain traction when the Evo doesn't even come with tires that fit that profile.

Do you have links to those pictures.

Also, if they are the best tire, then why do they not recommend that size for stock wheels? That is what is confusing to me and has caused most of this BS today with myself and DTD
Old Mar 29, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by cij911
Clay -- (1) The tire 255/ 40 is a different tire diameter than the stock 235 / 45, at least according to my calculator -- true it is not a huge difference

255/40 has less diameter than 235/45
they could weight more, less or the same if u search

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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by FastAzzEvo
Do you have links to those pictures.

Also, if they are the best tire, then why do they not recommend that size for stock wheels? That is what is confusing to me and has caused most of this BS today with myself and DTD
dont know why, but I have ordered many sets of tires from tirerack in the past, including those 255/40's .....they never said a single thing to me against them.
Old Mar 29, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by AWDTurbo4
dont know why, but I have ordered many sets of tires from tirerack in the past, including those 255/40's .....they never said a single thing to me against them.
I bought them from discounttiredirect not tirerack. Does tirerack even sell falkens?
Old Mar 29, 2007 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by FastAzzEvo
I bought them from discounttiredirect not tirerack. Does tirerack even sell falkens?
I know where u got them from, I wrote that because I cant understand either what the big deal is. Do u have any idea how many members here run that tire size? to me thats the best size for stock wheels.



and u r right, I dont think tirerack have falkens
Old Mar 29, 2007 | 03:54 PM
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just some more info.

stock tire



this is the old 255/40 I was running



and this is what I have now, 255/35/18**
Old Mar 29, 2007 | 04:06 PM
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The Kumho MX (235/45) weigh 24# each (so ~4 less rotational mass than the 615 option)....I believe some of the Bridgestone's are even lighter (but I am not 100% positive)...

Like I said earlier, I would have liked to test the 615s but was told they would not fit even though a ton of people use them on evos. Either way I would not worry about it, this is one of those items that can be discussed ad naseum (e.g. FMIC, exhaust, etc.) and for 90% of drivers not make a difference (IMHO).
Old Mar 29, 2007 | 06:13 PM
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Man...this is a common issue......I just took off my OEM Advans at 10K.........tried a set of 245/45/17 Nitto 555's.....ths size looked great, but the extra height on the sidewall made my car ride like crap.....add in the fact that the 555's are not that great and it makes for a real bad ride......greasy with more tire roll is the only way to descibe it....sucked......

I just put on a set of Falken RT-615's 255/40/17's......they look, fit and work great........I know many people on this site that do the same.....they are mounted on my stock BBS 17x8 wheel...they barely sit past the edge of the wheel.....I have about 500 miles on the 615's and I really like them.....feel very much like the stock Advans....and they look great

Got them from Discount Tire for $140 each delivered.

I would check out the EVOm forums for info on this as there is a lot of tire and wheel fitment stuff out there.

IMHO......I don't think it is a good move to increase the sidewall height on tires on an EVO.....if you are into "show", then no problem....but if you are into "go" then low profile wide sticky tires is the way to go......

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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 06:47 PM
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I'm running 255/40/17s on my MR wheels, no problems so far.



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