CarFanatic

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ya can go that route aswell.

here are some pics, this is set up wit corner weighting.

CarFanatic

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cloned?? Whatever you want to call them, PIC has a nice history in Honda racing vist there site.



http://picperformance.com/store/scripts/news.asp

Warrtalon

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Here's my comparison.

CarFanatic

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looks pretty similar. I'm assuming your corner balanced aswell.

Warrtalon

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Yes.

prostcj

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Looks corner balanced? You've got some good eyes.

funnyclub

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Hey Mate is that the PIC coilovers thrown on as they come preset.
If so I like the ride height.

Here's my ride height with Bilsteins and Hks Kansai springs

There not too far off so I should be fine for the speed bumps

CarFanatic

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yes that is the ride highet pre set. When I had the corner weight re checked with me in the car. all my aligenment guy had to do was turn the passenger side rear a turn or too and it was 50 50 with me in it. Two of my buddies run the same set up and the ride height is the same as mine.

the reason I said it looked corner weighted is because evos the rear will sit lower then the front.

Noob4life

What do you mean by basis? We choose spring rates based on a desired suspension frequency, and work backwards from there. The TSO's are valved and sprung based on Pure Tuning's requirements. Most who go with the Select TSO setups sold have come with the alignment and damping settings from the Pure Tuning/PIC Performance Evo8 that was campaigned last year, most notably at the Evo Tuner Shootout at CMP.

I'd consider something like the Ohlins more of a benchmark, thana basis. We know that we aren't yet in any position to compete directly with those brands, but that doesn't mean that we haven't set our sights high.

Warrtalon

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"Basis" as in what brand are you using for your setups? For instance, my Gerrard setup is based on Ohlins. Robi has packages based on KW3s and DMS, for example. Are you saying you manufacture these yourselves from scratch?

Noob4life

Ooh I see. The TSO's are a version of our Select coilovers that are made to Pure Tuning's Specifications, so in that case they use PIC's as basis, I misunderstood what you were saying.

PIC is PIC. They aren't exactly made from scratch, as in the individual components are outsourced from all over, but the final assembly is done in our factory in Taiwan. We have simply taken a common design and found ways to improve on it.

trinydex

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get ready for the made in taiwan comments.

Noob4life

I was born ready. Shoot I was nearly made in Taiwan myself, glad the rents decided to make the big move to Canada.

Nothing wrong with "Made in Taiwan". There *is* something wrong with "Made With No Regards for Quality or Performance". Sometimes, people have trouble seperating the two.

CarFanatic

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they work

992gnt

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I'll be doing a complete writeup later this week, but as for a lap time comparison last year on Mueller tuned JIC's I went 1:43.9 at Mid Ohio. Last weekend at Mid Ohio I went 1:40.1. The car had very few changes from last year, the biggest being the suspension and tires (running 245 Hankook Z214's vs well worn (ie. fast) 255 RA1's). Power was virtually the same, and the car was absolutely fantastic to drive.

Then you factor in the support (PIC was on site all weekend, and Pure was there too), you cannot beat these for the money. Out west you guys have Robi, Paul and John, here in the Midwest we have PIC.