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Old Jun 13, 2007, 03:29 PM
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Wheel Spacers safe?

Hey guys I'm new to Evolution M and I've been on Socalevo for awhile now and I've done plenty research and still I am not sure what to do. I'm hopeing to get some Gramlights 57s 17x8.5 et 35 and I'd like a wider stance look. So I was thinking about running some 10mm H&R Spacers with ARP Studs. Do you guys think this is safe? I'd like to be able to go fast a little now and then without any worries of my wheels falling off the or the studs breaking, but other then that I drive like a grandma daily. Thanks guys
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Would like to know for Daily also. I want to run NT-03's.
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My Evo is also for daily driveing so is it safe?
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I am currently running 10mm spacers (with hubcentric rings machined on to the spacer)in the front on my evo which I track alot , no problems yet. I am running stock size wheels though with R-compounds, APR studs are required no matter what size spacer you are going to use for safety reasons IMO. Also I torque my wheels to 95ft lbs with them for good measure, stock is around 75ft lbs.
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Good Question

I have a set of GramLights 57s 17x8.5 +30

Will be running TE37's with the widebody kit, want to probably keep the Gramlights for everyday driving...

Will adding the spacers 10 mm be safe to drive... Im trying maintain a wid stance
Old Jun 13, 2007, 08:41 PM
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Let's put is this way... PA state inspection will not pass you with wheel spacers on. I'm not exactly sure if it's a safety reason or what. I know that it's a fact though that you will fail PA inspection with spacers.
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Thanks for your helps guys but I still don't know if It would be safe for daily driveing. Some say it's okay and some say a big NO. Any forsure answer or is it just what you want?
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I have been running 5mm on mine for over a year and no problems. I am still able to get 11 to 12 full turns out of them and had them torqued to 75ftlb.
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I read on VW forums that spacers wear out wheel bearings.
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I run 9mm hub-centric spacers on the front of my Evo as the rims I have do not come in the standard offset for the Evo. (I had the spacers custom made for my application)
I also replaced the stock studs on the front with ARP studs. I have been running like this for almost a year with no issues or concerns.

I would say yes its safe if:

1. The spacers you are running are hub-centric as this takes a lot of the lateral load off the studs and places it on the hub where its supposed to be. (even with ARP studs)
2. Dont go wider than 10mm - 12mm if you can help it. (even with ARP studs)
3. You should have at minimum 6 full turns of the lug nuts before they meet the rim, if not replace the studs with the ARP studs. (takes about an hour of cussing and a few hefty mallet taps per side)

Hope this helps some.

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Originally Posted by NateDaJew
I read on VW forums that spacers wear out wheel bearings.
That is correct! It does not happen over night but eventually they will wear out the wheel bearing prematurely

The further out you go the more stres you put on the bearings.

But as for wether they are safe or not is very debated.... I belive they are safe when using high quality hubcentric wheel spacers like H&R's and using the correct size extended wheels studs
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i run 20mm kics spacers up front. they have built in studs. no trouble so far and the car handles great.
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Guys, there's a simultaneous thread discussing this very issue already. Keep in mind that running a wider track will also lower the roll center; and lowering the roll center will increase the roll couple, thereby inducing more roll and making the car actually handle worse than it did previously.

If you run spacers and care about your handling--get the roll center correction kit and precision steering kit from Whiteline or Robi.
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I heard if you can 3 or 4 complete turns , you should be fine.
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