Tein Super Street vs. Bilstein b6 in Poland
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Tein Super Street vs. Bilstein b6 in Poland
Hello from Poland,
I have to change front coilovers (EVO 9 stock Bilstein b6). I’m considering new set of Bilstein or … something else. Is tein super street ok ? I need it for street daily use and sometimes on track. We don’t have much people in Poland who uses super street – a lot of people uses flex but opinions are not very good (too hard for street and quality problems). Bilstein is quite comfortable – can anybody compare it to super street – is it worth to change ? Is SS hard to adjust ?
I have to change front coilovers (EVO 9 stock Bilstein b6). I’m considering new set of Bilstein or … something else. Is tein super street ok ? I need it for street daily use and sometimes on track. We don’t have much people in Poland who uses super street – a lot of people uses flex but opinions are not very good (too hard for street and quality problems). Bilstein is quite comfortable – can anybody compare it to super street – is it worth to change ? Is SS hard to adjust ?
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Look at the Stance GR+ coilovers. Lots of great reviews around the boards and they are in the same price range. You will have alot more control over how they are set up as well. Contact Nick with DTM he has answered all my questions about these coilovers.
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I have compared Bilstein B6s (we call them HDs here in the US) to Megan (basic entry level coil-over) here:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=337211
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=337211
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What could be reasonable alternative for TEIN? In Europe Tein is quite popular and choice of alternatives is limited. Maybe you will advice something interesting in good price (max. 2000 $) for daily (70%) and track (30%) use and I will buy it in States. Additionally I have to say that roads in Poland are completely disaster so I need a bit of comfort to survive on it .
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I would get the Bilsteins then. The roads in Michigan are pretty poor. And our winters are terrible too. That is why I decided on going with a great strut and spring combo and got rid of my coil-overs. Not to mention their performance is great. Very streetable and awesome around the track.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=343046
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=343046
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I have compared Bilstein B6s (we call them HDs here in the US) to Megan (basic entry level coil-over) here:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=337211
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=337211
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I would get the Bilsteins then. The roads in Michigan are pretty poor. And our winters are terrible too. That is why I decided on going with a great strut and spring combo and got rid of my coil-overs. Not to mention their performance is great. Very streetable and awesome around the track.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=343046
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=343046
Do they ship to Europe ?
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I have the Swift GSR Sports.
Sports (GSR rates):
F: 179-267
R: 207-319
Spec Rs (GSR rates):
F:157-358
R:196-380
http://www.swiftsprings.com/file/SportSprings.pdf
Spec Rs have a higher final rating in terms of stiffness. But I have been really happy with my Sports. If you street a lot and track some - the Sports. If you AX more or track a lot then you might want the Spec Rs. I have not tracked on the Spec Rs only the Sports.
Just asked Andrew @ GTWorx - they sure do! Shoot them a PM or call!
Sports (GSR rates):
F: 179-267
R: 207-319
Spec Rs (GSR rates):
F:157-358
R:196-380
http://www.swiftsprings.com/file/SportSprings.pdf
Spec Rs have a higher final rating in terms of stiffness. But I have been really happy with my Sports. If you street a lot and track some - the Sports. If you AX more or track a lot then you might want the Spec Rs. I have not tracked on the Spec Rs only the Sports.
Just asked Andrew @ GTWorx - they sure do! Shoot them a PM or call!
Last edited by Smike; Jun 9, 2008 at 11:13 AM.
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I have the Swift GSR Sports.
Sports (GSR rates):
F: 179-267
R: 207-319
Spec Rs (GSR rates):
F:157-358
R:196-380
http://www.swiftsprings.com/file/SportSprings.pdf
Spec Rs have a higher final rating in terms of stiffness. But I have been really happy with my Sports. If you street a lot and track some - the Sports. If you AX more or track a lot then you might want the Spec Rs. I have not tracked on the Spec Rs only the Sports.
Just asked Andrew @ GTWorx - they sure do! Shoot them a PM or call!
Sports (GSR rates):
F: 179-267
R: 207-319
Spec Rs (GSR rates):
F:157-358
R:196-380
http://www.swiftsprings.com/file/SportSprings.pdf
Spec Rs have a higher final rating in terms of stiffness. But I have been really happy with my Sports. If you street a lot and track some - the Sports. If you AX more or track a lot then you might want the Spec Rs. I have not tracked on the Spec Rs only the Sports.
Just asked Andrew @ GTWorx - they sure do! Shoot them a PM or call!
Last edited by lev; Jun 9, 2008 at 12:55 PM.
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Correct, if you are keeping the OE struts then the MR Swifts are what you want. If you are going to upgrade to the HDs then I would say get the GSR versions. The rears are a little stiffer off the base marks.
Spring install is very easy. 2 bolts at the bottom of the strut (one is a camber bolt - dont mix them up ) and the 3 at the top of the susp mounts. Once you have the sturts off then you have to use a spring compressor to get the spring off safely. Then its the opposite to install. Took Otter and I 2 hrs or so mostly chatting.
Spring install is very easy. 2 bolts at the bottom of the strut (one is a camber bolt - dont mix them up ) and the 3 at the top of the susp mounts. Once you have the sturts off then you have to use a spring compressor to get the spring off safely. Then its the opposite to install. Took Otter and I 2 hrs or so mostly chatting.
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It is not clear for me. What is the difference between OE and HDs ? You wrote that B6 (in Europe) is HD in US. So I have HDs now according to your information ? Why thay cant give same signatures in Europe and states ?
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It is my understanding that the MR Bilsteins are not the same as the HDs. The valving is different. So the factory versions are not the same as the aftermarket ones.
Part Numbers:
HD Fronts: 4-VE3-B843-H0
HD Rears: F4-BE5-B844-H0
http://www.bilstein.com/mistore/ymm_...reYMM=storeYMM
Take a look at yours. The numbers should be on the silver band like it is here:
Part Numbers:
HD Fronts: 4-VE3-B843-H0
HD Rears: F4-BE5-B844-H0
http://www.bilstein.com/mistore/ymm_...reYMM=storeYMM
Take a look at yours. The numbers should be on the silver band like it is here:
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Thanks I will check and replay
You are right
My numbers:
Front F4-VE3-A900 TO
Mitsubishi nr MN 101890
I didn't check rear but I know that Mitsu nr is MN101899
Problem is that front right coilover is dead and I have to change it. OEM coilover costs 1000$ a-piece. It means 2000 $ per pair. I think i will change it for aftermarket b6 so GSR springs will be better option ? Should I change rears ?
You are right
My numbers:
Front F4-VE3-A900 TO
Mitsubishi nr MN 101890
I didn't check rear but I know that Mitsu nr is MN101899
Problem is that front right coilover is dead and I have to change it. OEM coilover costs 1000$ a-piece. It means 2000 $ per pair. I think i will change it for aftermarket b6 so GSR springs will be better option ? Should I change rears ?
Last edited by lev; Jun 10, 2008 at 02:20 PM.