Question about Rotas?
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Question about Rotas?
My car came with rota rims already installed. I recently cracked one of my rota rims during a crash. I have 3 options. One is to see if its repairable, second is to replace it, or third is to sell my 3 good rims and buy a new set.
My question is are Rotas up for the job of track duty? I like my rotas and they are cheap so I dont get upset when i curb check them, but I want to know if I would be better off selling them for some advans or volks. Of course advans and volks are better but they also cost way more. I could use that money on sway bars and suspesnion parts.
What do you guys suggest I do.
My question is are Rotas up for the job of track duty? I like my rotas and they are cheap so I dont get upset when i curb check them, but I want to know if I would be better off selling them for some advans or volks. Of course advans and volks are better but they also cost way more. I could use that money on sway bars and suspesnion parts.
What do you guys suggest I do.
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I think there was a thread or some comments left about rota's and other knock offs that were used during track days that got bent, etc.etc because the build quality wasn't as good as advans, volk, etc.
I will try to find it for you
I will try to find it for you
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I personally don't think it's as big a deal as people make it out to be. Yes some people have had legitimate problems with Rotas (ie. not simply blaming the wheel when it was their fault) but the same can be said of any wheel in existence. No matter what, someone has broken it. If you daily drive the car and don't want to have a separate set of rims for just track use, I don't see any reason not to use Rotas. Everyone wishes they could have Volks or Gram Lights or Works on their daily driver but it's not realistic, they cost a fortune and come with all the problems that brings.
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There is a little more too it than that. I would assume you know that. How many race cars and time attack cars run Advans? I know I can name some pretty big cars that run the Advans with no problems. The process they use is much different than your typical wheel. With that said Rota's would not be something I would entirely trust on the track. For one they are heavy and they are a relatively a weak wheel. I have seen more than a fair share of bent rota's, especially with under a 40 series tire.
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Run them if you want but yes they are weaker and cheaper Volks and advans are expensive for a reason and I personally like Enkei for track wheels they are still very strong and light weight but not badly price they are cheaper than advan and volks but you def get the bling bling factor with those
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If you were in a crash then you probably struck a curb with the wheel or another car impacted it pretty hard. It would be best to just replace the wheel with a brand new one. One wheel is cheap and will be near the cost of a proper repair, also you know it will be safe and guaranteed to be properly weighted/fine to run.
also the weaker wheel compared to advan is a pretty strange comment. both wheels are JWL/VIA certified, both wheels are cast, etc.. I've had friends crack cast Advans and cast Work wheels, that's just how a cast wheel will fail if impacted hard enough. My first set of wheels were Volk Racing CE28's which I bent two after a short period of time. I've since then ran Rota wheels for the last few years without a single issue. I daily drive and track them and they are great wheels. I now run the new Rota DPT's which are only 18 lbs and they have held up extremely well over the same roads with potholes that damaged my Volk wheels.
I guess those 3-4 broken Rota images from severe accidents sway a lot of peoples opinions about these wheels. Those with actual experience with these wheels tend to give great reviews and are very happy with them.
also the weaker wheel compared to advan is a pretty strange comment. both wheels are JWL/VIA certified, both wheels are cast, etc.. I've had friends crack cast Advans and cast Work wheels, that's just how a cast wheel will fail if impacted hard enough. My first set of wheels were Volk Racing CE28's which I bent two after a short period of time. I've since then ran Rota wheels for the last few years without a single issue. I daily drive and track them and they are great wheels. I now run the new Rota DPT's which are only 18 lbs and they have held up extremely well over the same roads with potholes that damaged my Volk wheels.
I guess those 3-4 broken Rota images from severe accidents sway a lot of peoples opinions about these wheels. Those with actual experience with these wheels tend to give great reviews and are very happy with them.
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I guess the only thing that's holding me back from buying Rotas are two things:
1. On their website they never mentioned they are ISO9001/QS9000 or ISO/TS 16949 certified, they seem to say they stride to follow the standards. I'm not an Ops Mgmt person, but I believe there's an official certification for this correct? For a company thats been around since th 1970s and making 50K+ wheels a year, wouldn't the certification be a minimum requirement to gain industry respect and potential very lucrative contracts as an OEM manufacturer?
2. This guy's personal experience https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/5007914-post14.html
1. On their website they never mentioned they are ISO9001/QS9000 or ISO/TS 16949 certified, they seem to say they stride to follow the standards. I'm not an Ops Mgmt person, but I believe there's an official certification for this correct? For a company thats been around since th 1970s and making 50K+ wheels a year, wouldn't the certification be a minimum requirement to gain industry respect and potential very lucrative contracts as an OEM manufacturer?
2. This guy's personal experience https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/5007914-post14.html
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^ I read that, but notice they are very abiguous on who they manufactured for and also it implied they only manufactured OEM wheels in their early periods and not now.
I'm not meaning to trash them, but if they're not specific and up front with what they do and don't do, then the consumer has the right to question their quality. Nevertheless, I'm still considering a set of used Rotas for my winter wheels.
I'm not meaning to trash them, but if they're not specific and up front with what they do and don't do, then the consumer has the right to question their quality. Nevertheless, I'm still considering a set of used Rotas for my winter wheels.
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just buy the rotas. if you have something to prove or just think youre a baller then go right ahead and drop 4 g's on some bling bling volks. ive had my rotas for over a year now with zero problems. dont listen to all the brand name ****** out there, just do whats right for your budget and needs.
P.S. you wil definately feel better about accidentally curbing a $900 set of wheel than a$4000 set. not to mention haters trying to steal your $#!+
P.S. you wil definately feel better about accidentally curbing a $900 set of wheel than a$4000 set. not to mention haters trying to steal your $#!+
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This is a long post but I wanted to address everyone's questions/concerns. There are a lot of rumors online however 99% of the time an actual Rota owner posts a review it's positive. At least that's what I've witnessed on the forums.. There are hundreds and hundreds of Evo's running Rota wheels ranging from P45R's, G-Force's, etc.. without a single issue. Rota wheels pass all JWL/VIA test standards which proves they are strong quality wheels.
PAWI (The company that manufactures Rota wheels) holds the ISO 9001 and QS 9000 certification. Continue to read my below reply regarding their current OEM wheels as this is something you also had a question regarding.
I have seen that guys post on here and also on the Subaru forums and the facts do not add up at all.. After that post alone on EvoM you would think the wheel just broke while driving.. he certainly made it seem that way right? Please review these posts/facts and let me know what you think know
His original post here
http://www.iwsti.com/forums/425607-post1.html
"I believe I swirved to dodge a deer, but I can't totally remember the accident. Anyways, I slid through the ditch, and at some point the passenger side from rim cracked"
"All of this happened very slowly - probably 40-45mph"
Then he mentions this in a later post
"I'm totally fine, I didn't have enough speed to flip/roll the car."
then people start to question his story and what had actually happened and all of the sudden his memory loss is back
"It's called memory loss - it happenes in periods of traumatic stress; look it up dude. Stress like...sliding upside down perhaps"
^^ Sliding upside down? Wait.. I thought you said you didn't have enough speed to flip/roll your car
Also what is funny, after all the bashing he did and how he mentioned publicly on the forum that he would never run a Rota wheel... he PM'ed us on this forum asking about Rota wheels for his new Evo..
Rota sponsors many race/drift teams in the Philippines. If you go to any major motorsport events in this country you will see tons of Rota wheels on these track cars
Here in the US Rota Wheels are used on a very very well known Time Attack car. The GST Motorsports Impreza is a car we sponsor and they have had amazing success with their car. They have won a ton of AWD Unlimited events with their car and many overall Unlimited class events. Tons of people can vouch for how fast this car is and how competitive it is while running Rota wheels.
Quote from GST Owner/Tuner Mike Warfield
"We have smashed burms, jumped the car and done all things brutal we can and we have never hurt a Rota rim ever.
For sure the best wheel for the $ and strong as hell.
Mike"
Rota P45R
Rota Torque
Rota has never stopped making OEM wheels Once again I'll back up my posts/claims with actual facts for everyone
On our last visit to the Philippines/Rota we were able to visit the 2008 Philippine Auto Show and had a chance to view a lot of OEM wheels Rota manufactures. The largest car manufacture in the world, Toyota, has Rota make wheels for a couple of their 2009 models as well as a few other car manufactures
Here's the 2009 Toyota Vios with a wheel we call the "Tarmac 2" on the Subaru forums.
Car info on Toyota's site
http://www.toyota.com.ph/cars/new_cars/vios/index.asp
and proof of the wheel being made in the Rota plant
Rota Grid 20" on a 2009 Ford Truck
-Dan
I guess the only thing that's holding me back from buying Rotas are two things:
1. On their website they never mentioned they are ISO9001/QS9000 or ISO/TS 16949 certified, they seem to say they stride to follow the standards. I'm not an Ops Mgmt person, but I believe there's an official certification for this correct? For a company thats been around since th 1970s and making 50K+ wheels a year, wouldn't the certification be a minimum requirement to gain industry respect and potential very lucrative contracts as an OEM manufacturer?
1. On their website they never mentioned they are ISO9001/QS9000 or ISO/TS 16949 certified, they seem to say they stride to follow the standards. I'm not an Ops Mgmt person, but I believe there's an official certification for this correct? For a company thats been around since th 1970s and making 50K+ wheels a year, wouldn't the certification be a minimum requirement to gain industry respect and potential very lucrative contracts as an OEM manufacturer?
2. This guy's personal experience https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/5007914-post14.html
His original post here
http://www.iwsti.com/forums/425607-post1.html
"I believe I swirved to dodge a deer, but I can't totally remember the accident. Anyways, I slid through the ditch, and at some point the passenger side from rim cracked"
"All of this happened very slowly - probably 40-45mph"
Then he mentions this in a later post
"I'm totally fine, I didn't have enough speed to flip/roll the car."
then people start to question his story and what had actually happened and all of the sudden his memory loss is back
"It's called memory loss - it happenes in periods of traumatic stress; look it up dude. Stress like...sliding upside down perhaps"
^^ Sliding upside down? Wait.. I thought you said you didn't have enough speed to flip/roll your car
Also what is funny, after all the bashing he did and how he mentioned publicly on the forum that he would never run a Rota wheel... he PM'ed us on this forum asking about Rota wheels for his new Evo..
Here in the US Rota Wheels are used on a very very well known Time Attack car. The GST Motorsports Impreza is a car we sponsor and they have had amazing success with their car. They have won a ton of AWD Unlimited events with their car and many overall Unlimited class events. Tons of people can vouch for how fast this car is and how competitive it is while running Rota wheels.
Quote from GST Owner/Tuner Mike Warfield
"We have smashed burms, jumped the car and done all things brutal we can and we have never hurt a Rota rim ever.
For sure the best wheel for the $ and strong as hell.
Mike"
Rota P45R
Rota Torque
^ I read that, but notice they are very abiguous on who they manufactured for and also it implied they only manufactured OEM wheels in their early periods and not now.
I'm not meaning to trash them, but if they're not specific and up front with what they do and don't do, then the consumer has the right to question their quality. Nevertheless, I'm still considering a set of used Rotas for my winter wheels.
I'm not meaning to trash them, but if they're not specific and up front with what they do and don't do, then the consumer has the right to question their quality. Nevertheless, I'm still considering a set of used Rotas for my winter wheels.
On our last visit to the Philippines/Rota we were able to visit the 2008 Philippine Auto Show and had a chance to view a lot of OEM wheels Rota manufactures. The largest car manufacture in the world, Toyota, has Rota make wheels for a couple of their 2009 models as well as a few other car manufactures
Here's the 2009 Toyota Vios with a wheel we call the "Tarmac 2" on the Subaru forums.
Car info on Toyota's site
http://www.toyota.com.ph/cars/new_cars/vios/index.asp
and proof of the wheel being made in the Rota plant
Rota Grid 20" on a 2009 Ford Truck
-Dan