What size Hypercoil Springs for Autox?
#1
What size Hypercoil Springs for Autox?
Hey guys - broke college kid looking for a quick fix
I'd love to do a set of full coilovers but I don't have the money, so I think I'm going to do a set of springs just to hold me over till I get that high-coin nursing job. I've heard that Hypercoil springs are the best, but I don't know what size I would need to get on my stock MR Bilsteins. I do understand that I need to be careful about drop exceeding 1" due to roll center issues (which I cannot fix with the roll center kit running in BSP).
Also, would it be problematic to go to a much harder spring? I autox alot and I lift my inside rear wheel alot. I tried to fix this through braking earlier so I wasn't trail braking, and this helped some, but I feel like my corner speeds could be higher if my inside wheels were in better contact with the tarmac. Would 400# rear/375# be unbalanced or too much?
Does anyone have any good ideas that I'm not thinking of?
I'm running BSP and my car weighs in around 3200#s empty.
I'd love to do a set of full coilovers but I don't have the money, so I think I'm going to do a set of springs just to hold me over till I get that high-coin nursing job. I've heard that Hypercoil springs are the best, but I don't know what size I would need to get on my stock MR Bilsteins. I do understand that I need to be careful about drop exceeding 1" due to roll center issues (which I cannot fix with the roll center kit running in BSP).
Also, would it be problematic to go to a much harder spring? I autox alot and I lift my inside rear wheel alot. I tried to fix this through braking earlier so I wasn't trail braking, and this helped some, but I feel like my corner speeds could be higher if my inside wheels were in better contact with the tarmac. Would 400# rear/375# be unbalanced or too much?
Does anyone have any good ideas that I'm not thinking of?
I'm running BSP and my car weighs in around 3200#s empty.
#2
Hypercoil (Eibach, Swift, etc) sells specific sized springs for use in coilover shocks. Typically they are 2.25" ID or 2.5"ID and only fit dampers built to accept that. You can't run them on the OEM dampers (bilstein or KYB). Your only choice is to use aftermarket lowering springs.
You'll probably have 30-odd people tell you that swift is the greatest.
You'll probably have 30-odd people tell you that swift is the greatest.
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Hypercoil only makes coil-over springs, not struts springs (lowering type).
Check out the Swift Spec R springs. And getting a set of sway bars.
Swift Spec R's: 157-358 lb/in (6.4k final), 196-380 lb/in (6.8k final) (153-380 for MR). -1.4 in, -0.8 in drop.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...-reviewed.html
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...-reviewed.html
I run this setup for AXing (SM) and HPDE's.
Check out the Swift Spec R springs. And getting a set of sway bars.
Swift Spec R's: 157-358 lb/in (6.4k final), 196-380 lb/in (6.8k final) (153-380 for MR). -1.4 in, -0.8 in drop.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...-reviewed.html
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...-reviewed.html
I run this setup for AXing (SM) and HPDE's.
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Here we go, mister Swift Springs spokesmodel here^^^^^^^^ j/k, Mike knows his stuff and some others too. But as mentioned, Hypercoil only produces springs for use on Coil-overs, not strut/spring type set-ups. Swifts, GTWorx, Hotchkiss, and others make very good springs that are competition worthy, just for hindsight stay away from Teins.
#6
bummer.
I was looking forward to some sweet hypercoils. Oh well. Are the Swift Spec Rs worth anything on the autox course? I like the stock suspention, but it just seems too soft for my liking. I prefer cr*pping my kidneys going over train tracks to driving my car like it was a bass boat through the corners. I'm wary of the Swifts though, because the stock suspention is so good - I don't want to find out I made a $500 whoopsie.
I was looking forward to some sweet hypercoils. Oh well. Are the Swift Spec Rs worth anything on the autox course? I like the stock suspention, but it just seems too soft for my liking. I prefer cr*pping my kidneys going over train tracks to driving my car like it was a bass boat through the corners. I'm wary of the Swifts though, because the stock suspention is so good - I don't want to find out I made a $500 whoopsie.
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Swifts are proven to work on the AutoX course. Here is all the info you will need on the swifts Swift Spec R's reviewed
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Yes - they are worth it. And they are not $500.
I ran and won on the Sports (not as stiff as the Spec R's) last season on Z1 tires.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...oes-again.html
I will be running V710s this season with the Spec R's.
Videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j78OulCB1uw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCgO0HA2p6c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwW8i3JqxjQ
I ran and won on the Sports (not as stiff as the Spec R's) last season on Z1 tires.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...oes-again.html
I will be running V710s this season with the Spec R's.
Videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j78OulCB1uw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCgO0HA2p6c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwW8i3JqxjQ
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uh oh better watch out for mike. Dude You're an animal lol. At least on an AutoX course, now lets see you apply that to Hot laps on a full fledged road course then i will be impressed..............j/k
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Prepare to be impressed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs2GcfpRdiY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kpbRuWQJ5k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGFiJiIz0t0
40F, rain day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GBEGRIux5Q
Um lunch...
After the hump at Grattan (landing)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs2GcfpRdiY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kpbRuWQJ5k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGFiJiIz0t0
40F, rain day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GBEGRIux5Q
Um lunch...
After the hump at Grattan (landing)
Last edited by Smike; Jan 26, 2009 at 07:41 AM.
#13
I really hate you mike. down to the innermost workings of my soul. i really and truely hate your shoes lol. No but really I cant wait to come home and start driving again. Hey whenever i get that trip to the Dragon in august you might be impressed yourself. Im not too shabby myself, just no championships YET lol