berns

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before anyone tells me to search, I already did. this is all i came up with, and it provided no true answer.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ai#post6074598

So here's the deal. I want to run a 245 or 255 tire, on a 9" wheel.. 9.5 is too wide and I don't want to deal with huge fender issues etc...
I've narrowed my choice down to the Work Emotion CR Kai's in 17x9. They're offered in +17, 28, 38, 44 offsets.
I don't want to run a staggered offset, and I don't want to run any spacers/extended studs. My rear fender will be rolled, so that's no issue. What I'm wondering is what offset will be the perfect choice to bolt onto all 4 corners with the least amount of rub and no brake clearance problems. I know the 17's clear the front brakes, and I know the 28's don't poke out too far to cause too much trouble in the rear. If the +28's clear the brakes up front, then I'll run those all around.

Any advice on this setup or another wheel that meets this criteria would be appreciated. Thanks guys.

Smike

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OE are:

17x8 +38

PS - you can run 245/40, 245/45, 255/40 on the OE rim also.

berns

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so if I go with the cr kai's 17x9 +38 with a 255/40 I'll be good to go?

deoreo

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Both the +28 and +38 should work - you need to be sure the wheels will clear the brake calipers.

Check this site, and run the numbers to get an idea:
http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp

The 17x9 +28 will have 3mm less inner clearance, and extend 23mm into the wheelwell.

Also, remember that when you change the offset from the factory recommended, you change the scrub radius, and the steering will feel different.
I'm running 17x8 +28 and I do notice a bit more bump-steer, and weight to the steering wheel.

Edit:
Want to add, a couple bolt on, no fuss wheels are the
17x9 +35 5Zigen FN01R-C
http://www.5zigenusa.com/english/pro...fn01rchot.html

and the 17x9.5 +38 Enkei NT03+M
http://www.enkei.com/nt03+m.html

Both with a 255 tire.

berns

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Well, through some further searching on here, I found that the +28's require a 5mm spacer up front, which cancels them out for me.

So, the last step is to find out for sure that the cr kai's +38 will clear perfectly, although they'll probably look pretty bad with such a flat face. We'll see.
I'm not running the fn01rc's; I had them on my gti a while back and they bent wayyy to easily.

the nt03+m's look pretty bad in the high offset also. Hopefully someone has an answer for me.

Thanks for your help!

berns

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OK. So, thanks to Mark at Rav Spec I have the final answer on this setup.

The +38 17x9 Cr Kai's require an even bigger spacer up front.
The +28 are the most ideal, and will require a 5mm spacer up front, which I guess isn't so bad.
The +17 clear the fronts but they poke alot and will really change the feel of everything.

So, conclusion? +28 all around with 5mm spacer is the way to go. I guess that's what I'll be doing.

Thanks again for your help. I'll put this in the wheel fitment guide so this question doesn't come up again.

boomn29

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I'm shopping for another set of 17x9's as well.

I have the 17x9 +35 5Zigen FN01R-C and have ran a few different 255/40-17 tires on them with zero issues. This includes being lowered on springs and coilovers at different points and tracking it. No spacers, no rubbing, no issues ever.
That's interesting because I've tracked the heck outta mine with zero issues. Only rim problem I've ever had is with Rota's which I will NEVER buy again.

The 17x9.5 +38 Enkei NT03+M I have heard some differering opinions. Perhaps because a lot of people get them to run a 275 tire on the 9.5" wide rim. I'd like to get the definite answer on this though??

berns

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Tracks don't have potholes.. Hitting the rub strips on the side is much smoother the hitting a hole at 40+. Either way, I just won't buy them again, they bent, and they're cheap looking. You get what you pay for. If they're for auto-x or track, then it's all good. I'm looking for something versatile, summer/auto-x/occasional track.

The nt03+m +38's don't require any spacers and they sit fairly deep in the wheel well. So I'd imagine a 275 tire, while that's huge, would still fit, although, you might run into some suspension rubbing and fender rubbing issues with such a big tire (don't know this for a fact)
here's what they look like -- pretty ugly if you ask me, especially compared to them in 18x9.5 with a low offset.

WheelDude.com

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The new Rota DPT works very well for street/track use. This model is available in 17x9 +35 for the Evo 8/9 and only weighs 19.1 lbs in this fitment. You can easily run 255/40/17 tires without any fender modifications. Like all Rota Wheels, they pass JWL/VIA test standards

Here are some installed shots on various Evo's






I've tracked the heck out of Rota wheels as well as tons of others and we've had zero issues. Then again, when I'm on the track there aren't deer that I have to avoid which cause me to flip my car several times thus totaling it and damaging a wheel..


GST Motorsports owner/tune Mike Warfield has had a very positive experience with Rota wheels in their Time Attack program. They are constantly winning first place finishes in the Redline Time Attack series

Quote from him

"As for Rota's being weak, yea um ok We have run Enkei's, Volk's, Racing Harts etc etc and none of them have out lasted the Rota's. Hell our TA program gets solicated by wheel companies all the time, wonder what we'll be running this year???

ROTA!

Mike"


-Dan

berns

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If you make the grid TE37 look-a-likes with that subtle concave face, in the same specs, I would have bought them already. Just not a fan of the look of those dpt's. Thanks for chiming in though.

and just to clarify, are the pictures above of the 17x9 +35?

ak47po

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17X9 +35 255/40 no rolling or rubbing lowered on Swifts.

berns

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beautiful, but wayyy out of my price range. I really wish te-37's or the grid's were made in this fitment. No idea why they're not.

WheelDude.com

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If you are able to wait just a little longer we will have a wheel for you I definitely plan to discuss a 17" (17x9 to 17x9.5 most likely) Grid wheel with Rota on our next trip to the Philippines. We would be looking at late 2009 though for the release of this model as there are other models currently coming out in 18" fitment for various markets.

The pictures I posted above are 17x9 +35 DPT in Flat Black.


-Dan

Akisan2

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I got 17x9.5 nt03+m +38 and I really wouldn't say its ugly. I got this as summer set up/dedicated track set up as I am looking forward to hit some good track times. I decided to run 255/40's and no rubbing what so ever. i would think 275 should fit with little rolling the fenders.
I didn't get this rim for looks, as it is more a performance upgrade for me. So I really don't give rats a#$ about the looks but it looks a lot better in person rather then in pictures.

boomn29

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Just note the 17" version of the NTOM+3 fitment as it bubbles out. The 18x9.5" fitment is concave. Plus the OP only wanted to run up to a 255 I believe.
As we can see everyone has had an opinion. I've broke a Rota; you've bent a 5Zigen, heard of problems with SSR (aka super soft rims) as well. Cast rims ust aren't as strong and that's exactly where my Rota broke. There's bad batches when you don't pay for forged.