Better than A046?
#16
I'm including R-comp tires because I came to the conclusion that there is not any tire with a stiffer sidewall and any tire that can compete with the A046.
I prefer to drive 5k or less miles safely and with a hard feeling sidewall that allows me to drive in my style than 50k with a soft sidewall feeling
I prefer to drive 5k or less miles safely and with a hard feeling sidewall that allows me to drive in my style than 50k with a soft sidewall feeling
Well, i've competed on street tires for a while.
Dunlop Direzza Z1 Star Spec > A046 in every way.
#17
Unfortunately the Z1 star spec, RE50A, RE-11, S03, Kumhos, Nittos to name a few are impossible to get. Not available in my area.
The other options would be: PZero, T1-R, AVS, PS2, Z1 V101... but based on reviews here, they are not up to the task, I mean, not as stiff as A046.
The other options would be: PZero, T1-R, AVS, PS2, Z1 V101... but based on reviews here, they are not up to the task, I mean, not as stiff as A046.
#20
Btw, Do you have some experience with AD08?
I think that AD08 and Z1 star spec are in the same category, but Which one has a stiffer sidewall?
Last edited by k270kmh; Aug 21, 2009 at 09:31 PM.
#21
AD08 have better grip than A046 and better wet traction. Consider Dunlop Direzza star spec Z1 as well they are nearly as good but cheaper. Some like Kumhos but they have poor wet traction and that is an issue here in the NW where I drive. You can also look at Nitto Nt05. They have a loyal following here in the NW. I run 17x8 rims. My advans are 235/45x17
At the moment I'm using AD07's and the sidewalls are slightly softer compared to the A046's but there's considerably more grip with the AD07's - personal testing by driving the car in circles in an open lot until tires started squealing...
I still have the A046's sitting in the garage and with 6k miles on them. Lately I've been running with Bridgestone RE960AS from the previous winter and now using up my AD07's.
Last edited by pao; Aug 22, 2009 at 09:10 PM.
#23
i'd say A048's. as for the "you can't drive on A048's on the street," that's not true because the lotus elise comes stock with A048's. there are also plenty of EVO's on this site running those tires on the street. they will work, they just won't last long and won't be very good in the rain.
#24
I like high speed corners like 110mph~120mph... at this speed the rear tires must hold your car like rock, it is acceptable to lose the car in a stable way(no tires flexing/body roll) just a slide with four wheels that you can fix/control with the steering wheel or less/more gas depending on the situation...
With the A046 I could slide my car with no worries, it gave me a safe feeling to test its limits...
I think that this feeling is caused by the super stiff sidewall, that I do not want to lose with a new tire
With the A046 I could slide my car with no worries, it gave me a safe feeling to test its limits...
I think that this feeling is caused by the super stiff sidewall, that I do not want to lose with a new tire
Last edited by k270kmh; Aug 23, 2009 at 07:56 PM.
#26
i'd say A048's. as for the "you can't drive on A048's on the street," that's not true because the lotus elise comes stock with A048's. there are also plenty of EVO's on this site running those tires on the street. they will work, they just won't last long and won't be very good in the rain.
Two buddies of mine are running A048's and they absolutely swear by them.... in the pseudo dry weather the state of Washington blesses us every now and then with. I got a chance to test drive them on a friends S2K with the pavement surface barely wet from the morning mist and the tires were very finicky (IMHO) - better put, the slip angle/speed was difficult to judge - we were testing a few other tires in an empty lot driving in circles at the time.
#29
I read many good reviews about Z1 Star Spec at tirerack.
I can do a special order(1 month delivery) on the Star Spec at a local Store.
So, the final decision is: AD08 or Star Spec 235/45/17??? same price.
Which one would you go?
I can do a special order(1 month delivery) on the Star Spec at a local Store.
So, the final decision is: AD08 or Star Spec 235/45/17??? same price.
Which one would you go?
#30
Same price? Wow. At TireRack, in that size, the AD08 is currently $73 more per tire. I'm a big fan of the Z1* in terms of value, but for the same price, I would try the AD08. Does your deal apply to other sizes too? If so, you should at least consider 245/40/17 instead of the OEM size.