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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 01:55 PM
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Stock suspension more camber

OK I lied, it's not a stock suspension but Bilstein HDs with Swift spec-r Springs and rear sway.

The car pushes too much under quick sharper turnes. My alignment goes only up to -1.3 degrees because for some reason the driverside won't get past that

What can I do to improve me cornering? Camber plates? Perrin PSRS? Whiteline Center Roll kit? I think if I get closer to -2 degrees like I once was I will be more happy with my current setup.
Old Sep 16, 2009 | 05:16 PM
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Check the camber bolts. Even at the -1 selection I had -1.6/-1.7 up front.

What is your rear camber? Do you have sway bars? Tire pressure?
Old Sep 16, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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It be be NUMEROUS things. And no offense, but the number one thing people overlook, including myself, is driving skill / technique.

Play with tire pressures. Using a front sway bar can reduce push. Also, try toeing the rear wheels out or reducing the rear camber. What kind of tires?

Edit: Smike beat me to it.
Old Sep 16, 2009 | 05:25 PM
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Why don't you post your complete alignment settings, tire type and pressures as well as your rear bar specs. How old are the tires and how much faster are you trying to corner with this suspension setup?
Old Sep 16, 2009 | 05:29 PM
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[Play with tire pressures. Using a front sway bar can reduce push. Also, try toeing the rear wheels out or reducing the rear camber. What kind of tires?

Edit: Smike beat me to it.[/QUOTE]

A frt bar will not reduce push-- a larger rear bar will though. A basic principle is that you add the bar to the opposite end of the car where you are having problems..so if the frt pushes stiffen rear bar, if the back comes around stiffen the front bar--the opposites are true as well.
Old Sep 16, 2009 | 06:15 PM
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Sorry for the lack of info. I have falken rt-615, tire preasure shold be at 34psi in front about 32 in rear. Rear camber is at -1.5degrees. Rear swaybar is 24mm set to the middle hole. I guess I can try by switching it to the most agressive setting.

At -2 bolt my alignment only reads -1.3 on driver side and -1.8 on passander side with bolt set to -2.

I had the same setup when I had my cheap BC racing coilovers and the car did not push that much.
Old Sep 16, 2009 | 06:22 PM
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Higher pressures in back, not front for beginners.

When getting aligned tell the alignment "specialist" to push on the wheel, wiggle it a bit...it'll make the adjustment fall into place. I had a similar problem and this fixed it; I can easily get 2.5 on stock bolts in the front.
Old Sep 16, 2009 | 07:13 PM
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Thanks Kunal. What tire pressure do you recommend?
Old Sep 16, 2009 | 07:17 PM
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No problem bud depends on tyres but generally go 2psi higher out back. Try 34/36 hot.
Old Sep 17, 2009 | 05:41 AM
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inco9 nailed it. More tire pressure in the back for starters. And it could also be a function of the tires ability to grip. 615s got greasy for me after a few AX turns and would push like no other.
Old Sep 17, 2009 | 07:14 AM
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I will definetly try that. Should I also go more agressive setting on the rsb?
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Some more questions and suggestions:

Where in the corner does the car push (entry/mid/exit)? If you're trying to get rid of corner exit push, I'd suggest a TRE rear diff. It completely cured corner exit push on my car, and that was with stock suspension and stock swaybars.

Did you try flipping the camber bolt?

The other thing that I'd try (actually I will be doing this on my car after I install the H&E front swaybar that just arrived ) is to loosen the strut bolts (top three bolts and the bottom two), then push the top of the strut as far as it will go towards the center of the car and pull the bottom out. It might only move a tiny bit, but every little bit will help in gaining negative camber.

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Thanks for the advice Ludikraut. It pushes in the entry.

I will rig up my own camber tool and start messing with the suspension then.




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