Anyone running kw v3?
#16
Most of us refer to 1 way, 2 way, 3 way, and 4 way to describe the different types of valving adjustment (or number of knobs) on the shock. So a 1 way would be most coilovers out there that let you adjust rebound, or sometimes compression and rebound at the same time. 2 way would be seperate adjustment for rebound and compression. 3 way gives you rebound, low speed piston movement compression, and high speed piston movement compression. 4 way gives you low and high speed rebound and compression. As you can imagine, they are not easy to set up correctly and cost $texas. The more adjustability, the more complicated the set-up and the more costly to build. 2 ways cost $2-5k, 3 ways generally start at $5k, and 4 ways are just a lot of money.
KW V3's are the cheapest decent 2 way at around 2k but you absolutely NEED custom spring rates on them as the standard rates are POOP. Dirty, stinky, smelly poop. That's if you care about handling. The valving is a nice street/track comromise....KW is good at that. There are faster shocks out there but for the money KW's are a nice value.
If you're looking at just a coilover for daily driving, KW's would be overkill unless you just gotta have coilovers and really want to play with adjustments (even though you don't really need to). Bilstein PSS9 would do the trick and be simpler if you really want a coilover.
But I agree with others.....the Bilstein strut/shock combined with Swift or our GTWORX springs would be the way I personally would go for a DD and even light track car. It's cheap and a great all around option for a DD.
- Andrew
KW V3's are the cheapest decent 2 way at around 2k but you absolutely NEED custom spring rates on them as the standard rates are POOP. Dirty, stinky, smelly poop. That's if you care about handling. The valving is a nice street/track comromise....KW is good at that. There are faster shocks out there but for the money KW's are a nice value.
If you're looking at just a coilover for daily driving, KW's would be overkill unless you just gotta have coilovers and really want to play with adjustments (even though you don't really need to). Bilstein PSS9 would do the trick and be simpler if you really want a coilover.
But I agree with others.....the Bilstein strut/shock combined with Swift or our GTWORX springs would be the way I personally would go for a DD and even light track car. It's cheap and a great all around option for a DD.
- Andrew
#17
#19
Yeah, there are almost entirely different sets of terminology when you move up from tuner world to road racing world. Some the same. Much different. As is the pricing. Both good points, per GTWORX! I couldn't imagine doing high velocity damping adjustments for a street car! That being said I have enjoyed doing the compression and rebound tuning with my V3's and think I have seen a difference. My handling even changed when I switched from RE-01R's to AD08's due to a different spring rate of the tires - and had to retune the coilovers. Granted it was a minor adjustment at that rate but could be felt.
#20
^ It really is fun of you have the right mindset to play with the V3s, but it's not for everyone.
But yeah, I only refer damping adjustments as a "way" of adjustability. Sometimes i refer to dual height adjustable coilovers, but i try to make sure to specify the height part.
- Andrew
But yeah, I only refer damping adjustments as a "way" of adjustability. Sometimes i refer to dual height adjustable coilovers, but i try to make sure to specify the height part.
- Andrew
Last edited by GTWORX.com; Jul 6, 2010 at 10:03 AM.
#21
^ Well, I think that goes entirely to your point: you don't need a 2-way adjustable (let's call it what it is) and you don't need to spend that much unless you are interested in doing the tuning, playing with them, whatever. Still some great products out there for doing less. Sounds like our original poster really needs something that's going to last what with an 80 mile commute each day...
#22
wow guys thanks for all the input....
dam didnt think this thread was going to get out of hand.
well i am going to aggresively dd my car, im talking on driving at least a week, 400 miles...
as the mr bilstens and swift springs, not me...i want coils, cuz my plans are getting the KW V3, on cusco camber plates, and tanabe sway bar, bushings...
reason i want coils is that the ride quality, im also considering on the skunk 2's but not so sure
dam didnt think this thread was going to get out of hand.
well i am going to aggresively dd my car, im talking on driving at least a week, 400 miles...
as the mr bilstens and swift springs, not me...i want coils, cuz my plans are getting the KW V3, on cusco camber plates, and tanabe sway bar, bushings...
reason i want coils is that the ride quality, im also considering on the skunk 2's but not so sure
#23
They is so much BS in this thread its rediculous.
You look at every enthusiast class car in RTA that is consistently fast you will see that they are using KWs. The stock spring rates are garbage for the 8/9 chassis.
They are probably the best bang for the buck setup for DD/ and occasional tracking. Go with 7k or 8k springs in the front and 8k/9k in the rear and you will be rewarded with a great ride and awesome balance /body control on the track.
KWs are different from the rest and may not do the conventional thing in the suspension guru/tech arena however they do create results.
Another thing with KW is they are built for roads, meaning you can go thousands upon thousands of miles without a rebuild.... good luck with that on other brands...
Ya, they have *plastic* perches but that is for a reason... they engineered the perches out of a special and very durable material so that you wouldnt seize them after a winter season.
They are low maintenance and everything is thought out for the user.
For a DD or weekend car you really cant do better.
You look at every enthusiast class car in RTA that is consistently fast you will see that they are using KWs. The stock spring rates are garbage for the 8/9 chassis.
They are probably the best bang for the buck setup for DD/ and occasional tracking. Go with 7k or 8k springs in the front and 8k/9k in the rear and you will be rewarded with a great ride and awesome balance /body control on the track.
KWs are different from the rest and may not do the conventional thing in the suspension guru/tech arena however they do create results.
Another thing with KW is they are built for roads, meaning you can go thousands upon thousands of miles without a rebuild.... good luck with that on other brands...
Ya, they have *plastic* perches but that is for a reason... they engineered the perches out of a special and very durable material so that you wouldnt seize them after a winter season.
They are low maintenance and everything is thought out for the user.
For a DD or weekend car you really cant do better.
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