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Old Feb 13, 2011, 08:18 AM
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Summer Tires on 17x 9.5

Yes I have searched a bit, but most of the threads I have seen either are R compound discussions or don't have weight information.

I am in SOCAL and use my car just for the street. I am currently running the NT03m 17 x 9.5 with 275/40 Falken 615s. I need to replace the tires soon and am looking for some good options. I would like to reduce the weight of the tire (as much as possible) and keep decent tire wear. I am currently at ~450 whp and like to drive the car, so I want a tire that is up for the challenge.

(1) What size should I consider - 255/45 or 255 / 40 or 275/40 ?

(2) What are the hot / popular tires now and how much do they weigh ?

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I have no experience fitting a tire on a wheel that wide, so someone else should probably comment. Tire-wise, you may want to look into Hankook V12 Evos. They're an excellent high-performance street tire, low noise, decent wear, and fairly light relative to their performance envelope. If you didn't care about cornering, General UHPs are about as light as it gets in a 255/40/17 at 24lbs, but they're sh/t for anything other than acceleration and daily commuting. The V12s are ~25lbs in a 255 compared to something like the Star Specs at ~28lbs.
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Originally Posted by FJF
I have no experience fitting a tire on a wheel that wide, so someone else should probably comment. Tire-wise, you may want to look into Hankook V12 Evos. They're an excellent high-performance street tire, low noise, decent wear, and fairly light relative to their performance envelope. If you didn't care about cornering, General UHPs are about as light as it gets in a 255/40/17 at 24lbs, but they're sh/t for anything other than acceleration and daily commuting. The V12s are ~25lbs in a 255 compared to something like the Star Specs at ~28lbs.
Thanks for the feedback ! Are the Hankook V12's comparable to the Yok. A046 or Falken 615s ? It would be nice to get 15K - 20K miles on the tire too...
Old Feb 14, 2011, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by cij911
Thanks for the feedback ! Are the Hankook V12's comparable to the Yok. A046 or Falken 615s ? It would be nice to get 15K - 20K miles on the tire too...
I haven't driven the 615s in a controlled environment. Here's a comparison from C&D:

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...mparison_tests

Compared to the stock Yokos, they're significantly more quiet and better riding. Grip-wise, not a whole lot of difference on the street with the Advans having an edge at turn-in. Ultimately, the 046s have a higher performance envelope in the dry; everything is slightly better than the Hankooks. I noticed the biggest difference in braking. In the wet, there's no comparison; the Hankooks are superior.
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Dunlop makes a few tires in 265/40/17, I'm running the Z1's in that size, they're probably one of the most popular summer tire right now because they have amazing grip for the price but they're also one of the heaviest.
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All sizes will fit the wheel fine, just a bit more comfortably in the two 255 sizes. Looking at the same model tire in all three sizes, the 255/40-17 is the lightest of the three by one pound compared to the 45 series and three pounds compared the the 275.

So assuming you would use the 255/40... I'd look at the B-Stone RE-11, Dunlop Z1, or Kumho XS (in that order) for top in dry traction and response. Any of those will handle what you'll do on the street and some track use.
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Originally Posted by Neal@tirerack.
All sizes will fit the wheel fine, just a bit more comfortably in the two 255 sizes. Looking at the same model tire in all three sizes, the 255/40-17 is the lightest of the three by one pound compared to the 45 series and three pounds compared the the 275.

So assuming you would use the 255/40... I'd look at the B-Stone RE-11, Dunlop Z1, or Kumho XS (in that order) for top in dry traction and response. Any of those will handle what you'll do on the street and some track use.
Neal - THANKS a ton ! The 255/40 Kumhos are 25#s ...Nice weight savings.
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255/40/17 Conti DW has been performing very well on my car and is also light.
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If you're serious about shaving weight, the Michelin PS2 is the lightest high performance summer tire, it's on average about 2-3 pounds lighter than the competition, but you will pay more for them (do to a higher Kevlar content I believe). People will argue that 3 pounds won't make a difference, but they are wrong. I ran the PS2s for a season on some 8.5 CE28s and the responsiveness of the steering was obvious. Unsprung weight is easily felt on a car like the EVO. Just for reference, one ounce is equal to twenty five pounds at 100mph, so imagine shaving 3 pounds!
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Originally Posted by NY Evolutionary
If you're serious about shaving weight, the Michelin PS2 is the lightest high performance summer tire, it's on average about 2-3 pounds lighter than the competition, but you will pay more for them (do to a higher Kevlar content I believe). People will argue that 3 pounds won't make a difference, but they are wrong. I ran the PS2s for a season on some 8.5 CE28s and the responsiveness of the steering was obvious. Unsprung weight is easily felt on a car like the EVO. Just for reference, one ounce is equal to twenty five pounds at 100mph, so imagine shaving 3 pounds!
Yes I know the importance of weight and especially rotational weight...rims and tires are very important....Thanks Curt for the DW recommendation.
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Originally Posted by sscottttt
Dunlop makes a few tires in 265/40/17, I'm running the Z1's in that size, they're probably one of the most popular summer tire right now because they have amazing grip for the price but they're also one of the heaviest.
Do they fit with 17X9 +35mm offset? I want them to fit my FN01R-C
Searched for that offset and tire width and didn't find any.

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A 9.5" wheel should have a 275 tire on it. 265 min and 285 max.
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if i were you i would from the z1's in 275/40/17

you want to take advantage on your nice and wide rims
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My recommendation for you based on what you said is definitely the Conti DW. Seems to be the top choice for a street only summer tire for quite a few reason
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The DW's sound great ! Now it is a size question : will the 255/40/17 be OK for a 9.5 " rim (according to the specs it looks fine). I am not sure why others suggested the 275/40, as it is heavier and seems to be designed for a slightly larger rim. The overall difference from the 235/45 seems small +/- 1.3%, but the weight savings with the 255/40 vs the 275/40 is ~2lbs per tire (significant).


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