My Evo handles like crap
May 6, 2011, 01:02 PM
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5mm drop difference f/r. If you can see that from 5 feet away...you should be a sniper
May 6, 2011, 02:20 PM
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5mm drop difference f/r. If you can see that from 5 feet away...you should be a sniper
I think it would be fine with the factory BBS wheels, but I worry that when I throw those RGII's on there with the Star Specs that the gap is going to look huge for that setup. Edit: ALSO, I see no way to determine what shocks those pics are on. Not a single one of those cars has MR wheels or a VG!!! They all look like GSR's to me.
So according to the link, the GTWorx springs are:
290 lbs/in Front
330 lbs/in Rear
This is both stiffer than the Robispec advertised (which you did the math on above), as well as more "correct" rates for the Evo rear suspension geometry. Damn that is awfully tempting!!!
Smike, looking at those rates, is it safe to say that GTWorx is the second-best AutoX/DD setup behind the Swift Spec R and ahead of the Swift Mach?
Andrew: Do you know if it is recommended to rebuild the Bilsteins to these rates or are they designed with the factory rate in mind for best performance?
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May 6, 2011, 05:05 PM
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But seriously... I'm trying to have my cake and eat it to. I want performance, looks, ride height, and travel. I'll admit it is a delicate balance to say the least.
Edit: Oh hey, your avatar is trippin me out. What's the pic from and do you have it in full size?
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May 6, 2011, 06:20 PM
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After reading this thread, you're starting to scare me man. I purchased a set of those Robispec springs for that same vendor on Ebay. I just put them on my 34k mile Bilstiens and was planning on installing them on the car tomorrow. I'm hoping we didn't get screwed and they are in fact the real deal. Now I'm torn, do I take a better part of my day tomorrow and install them or say **** it and buy a set of GTWorx or Spec R's???
May 6, 2011, 06:25 PM
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If they're on, mount em up I'd say.
Like Smike said, hard to tell if mine have been used to outrun Roscoe P. Coltrain for the better part of their lives. They were used Bilsteins, and unfortunately not used by me, as my first Evo came with Ohlins Flags and the one I have now came with the JIC's.
Might as well give them a shot. Honestly I'm curious if yours behave with the same bounciness I'm experiencing. On the other hand, if you stop now, you're only out the cost of the Ebay springs, and you can recoup some of that selling them and try something else.
What do you have now? If you're running stock, please measure your fender to hub center distance and post it up!
Like Smike said, hard to tell if mine have been used to outrun Roscoe P. Coltrain for the better part of their lives. They were used Bilsteins, and unfortunately not used by me, as my first Evo came with Ohlins Flags and the one I have now came with the JIC's.
Might as well give them a shot. Honestly I'm curious if yours behave with the same bounciness I'm experiencing. On the other hand, if you stop now, you're only out the cost of the Ebay springs, and you can recoup some of that selling them and try something else.
What do you have now? If you're running stock, please measure your fender to hub center distance and post it up!
May 7, 2011, 03:10 AM
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I've had Ebay Robi's with stock KYB(60k) on the car for three weeks.
I get a slight steering wheel movement when over some real shi... roads in NYC when traveling @ highway speeds. Nothing that would ever suggest the car is out of control.
I had the car re-aligned after I did spring install, shop recommended bumpsteer kit whenever car is lowered.
I'll be doing bumpsteer and RCK next week.
I get a slight steering wheel movement when over some real shi... roads in NYC when traveling @ highway speeds. Nothing that would ever suggest the car is out of control.
I had the car re-aligned after I did spring install, shop recommended bumpsteer kit whenever car is lowered.
I'll be doing bumpsteer and RCK next week.
May 7, 2011, 07:13 AM
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I agree, no noticable rake. I like it!!! but not so sure on the ride height. I think it would be fine with the factory BBS wheels, but I worry that when I throw those RGII's on there with the Star Specs that the gap is going to look huge for that setup.
Edit: ALSO, I see no way to determine what shocks those pics are on. Not a single one of those cars has MR wheels or a VG!!! They all look like GSR's to me.
So according to the link, the GTWorx springs are:
290 lbs/in Front
330 lbs/in Rear
This is both stiffer than the Robispec advertised (which you did the math on above), as well as more "correct" rates for the Evo rear suspension geometry. Damn that is awfully tempting!!!
Smike, looking at those rates, is it safe to say that GTWorx is the second-best AutoX/DD setup behind the Swift Spec R and ahead of the Swift Mach?
Andrew: Do you know if it is recommended to rebuild the Bilsteins to these rates or are they designed with the factory rate in mind for best performance?
I think it would be fine with the factory BBS wheels, but I worry that when I throw those RGII's on there with the Star Specs that the gap is going to look huge for that setup. Edit: ALSO, I see no way to determine what shocks those pics are on. Not a single one of those cars has MR wheels or a VG!!! They all look like GSR's to me.
So according to the link, the GTWorx springs are:
290 lbs/in Front
330 lbs/in Rear
This is both stiffer than the Robispec advertised (which you did the math on above), as well as more "correct" rates for the Evo rear suspension geometry. Damn that is awfully tempting!!!
Smike, looking at those rates, is it safe to say that GTWorx is the second-best AutoX/DD setup behind the Swift Spec R and ahead of the Swift Mach?
Andrew: Do you know if it is recommended to rebuild the Bilsteins to these rates or are they designed with the factory rate in mind for best performance?
Yes and yes for the GTWorx.
After reading this thread, you're starting to scare me man. I purchased a set of those Robispec springs for that same vendor on Ebay. I just put them on my 34k mile Bilstiens and was planning on installing them on the car tomorrow. I'm hoping we didn't get screwed and they are in fact the real deal. Now I'm torn, do I take a better part of my day tomorrow and install them or say **** it and buy a set of GTWorx or Spec R's???
May 7, 2011, 02:14 PM
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Really I just want to see a bigger copy, not in a creepy way... So, I went to the local Cars n Coffee Meet this morning, and saw something VERY interesting. 2 IX's. One GSR with Swift Sport (mach, whatever you want to call them?) and one MR with Spec R.
The Spec R were NOT excessively raked. It was the damnedest thing I've seen in a while, because it was certainly NOT what I have seen in pictures. I know they are supposed to sit the same, Sport or Spec R, but these did not. The IX MR on Spec R's had no rear fender gap and a slight front gap. It looked great. I took a pic with my camera phone but it mucked up royally tiny and pixellated.
UPDATE!: I forgot the owner has a blog, here are some pics of the car:
http://jimsgarage.wordpress.com/
And here is a pic of the install, confirming Swift on Bilstein (not that I doubted).:
http://jimsgarage.wordpress.com/2009...new-stability/
Here is a pic in case the link is broken, but you can see, not a ton of rake and pretty good ride height and gap.:
The blue IX GSR was raked too much for my taste, exactly like the forum pics. So much so that I began to doubt the validity of the Spec R's on the MR, but the owner, Jim, showed me the receipt, with part number 4M017R. He also showed me a Swift catalog sheet showing part number 4M008 or something, and said they are different part numbers. Still, I thought the rake was supposed to be the exact same. Any way possible to reduce the rear ride height? Bushings, modifying the spring perch, etc? This **** looked like coilovers that were set to the correct height, I was blown away, to be honest.
So I ask you. What the deuce?!?!?
May 7, 2011, 07:25 PM
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I'll need some more time with the car and a proper alignment, but I'm happy with the way the car feels as of now.
Pics after the install:
