DD coilovers
#20
I have been running the Megan Streets for ~13K miles and love the handling. Quality of the coilover is very good and the only thing that anyone has stated could use improvement is spring rates. Because you can choose your rates that is no longer an excuse to bash the Megan's.
Please find below Smike's initial review of the Megan Tracks.
After I quoted his initial review of the Megan's, he has chosen to "recant" his initial positive review.
Megan Tracks 12k/10k
EDIT/UPDATE: Well after writing this, and the lack of people reading past the first post. I recant the statement below. The Swift/Bilstein and GTWorx/Bilstein combinations are superior to the Megan products in every way. They are matched for the struts, better quality product, and have better tolerances (aka dampening is well known). After seeing the Megan product apart, finding out they have no information on their valving, total lack of revavling, and that the shock cartridge is the same as the one for a Subaru - I no longer recommend anything below a properly setup KW3 for coilovers. And my first recommendation is for one of the above spring/strut combinations. (Sponsorship aside, I am here to help people get their cars setup right the first time. Not waste their money. I would not represent the people I do if I felt otherwise).
Please find below Smike's initial review of the Megan Tracks.
Megan Tracks 12k/10k
I found these to be a good entry level coil-over for those, like me, that want to get out there in the local auto-cross or HPDE events. These preformed very well for me and I had much praise from my instructors (some of whom are Porsche GT3 drivers – not only the car but the GT series) to how the car felt and reacted on the track. They had tons of adjustability and adaptability for racing.
Downsides: very stiff – can led to internal bleeding, irritability, and nagability (girlfriends, wives, family members, pets…). Michigan winters are very harsh, with lots of snow and road salt. I didn’t want to expose the car to the elements and I did have a winter car for a few seasons.
I found these to be a good entry level coil-over for those, like me, that want to get out there in the local auto-cross or HPDE events. These preformed very well for me and I had much praise from my instructors (some of whom are Porsche GT3 drivers – not only the car but the GT series) to how the car felt and reacted on the track. They had tons of adjustability and adaptability for racing.
Downsides: very stiff – can led to internal bleeding, irritability, and nagability (girlfriends, wives, family members, pets…). Michigan winters are very harsh, with lots of snow and road salt. I didn’t want to expose the car to the elements and I did have a winter car for a few seasons.
After I quoted his initial review of the Megan's, he has chosen to "recant" his initial positive review.
Megan Tracks 12k/10k
EDIT/UPDATE: Well after writing this, and the lack of people reading past the first post. I recant the statement below. The Swift/Bilstein and GTWorx/Bilstein combinations are superior to the Megan products in every way. They are matched for the struts, better quality product, and have better tolerances (aka dampening is well known). After seeing the Megan product apart, finding out they have no information on their valving, total lack of revavling, and that the shock cartridge is the same as the one for a Subaru - I no longer recommend anything below a properly setup KW3 for coilovers. And my first recommendation is for one of the above spring/strut combinations. (Sponsorship aside, I am here to help people get their cars setup right the first time. Not waste their money. I would not represent the people I do if I felt otherwise).
#21
I have been running the Megan Streets for ~13K miles and love the handling. Quality of the coilover is very good and the only thing that anyone has stated could use improvement is spring rates. Because you can choose your rates that is no longer an excuse to bash the Megan's.
Please find below Smike's initial review of the Megan Tracks.
After I quoted his initial review of the Megan's, he has chosen to "recant" his initial positive review.
Please find below Smike's initial review of the Megan Tracks.
After I quoted his initial review of the Megan's, he has chosen to "recant" his initial positive review.
It's not like Smike is the only person who ever bashed Megans, and it's not like he's the only person that recommends springs with Bilsteins unless you are REALLY going to spend some money and time on a good coilover combo and setup. Quoting a 3 year old post just makes it seem like you have a vendetta.
You say that "the only thing that anyone has stated could use improvement is spring rates"... Wait, what?
Smike stated about the Bilstein/Spring combo that:
- Springs are matched for the struts,
- better quality product,
- have better tolerances (aka dampening is well known)
And that after seeing the Megan product apart, finding out they have :
- no information on their valving,
- total lack of revavling,
- the shock cartridge is the same as the one for a Subaru
I've had Ohlins Flags and JIC's on my cars and I can tell you that even with BLOWN Bilsteins, they are more streetable than either set of coilovers I had. (high speed dips are a little dramatic at the moment).
What's your expertise and experience besides having Megans and liking them?
#22
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240z savior of the Megans. Keep holding on to that dream they are better then what you think they are. And you still cant read past post number 1. Thread grew and has a lot more into it.
Yada yada - they are crap. You want to waste money - for it. You want to bash me - keep trying. Just like your sig - I speak from experience, professional background, and not my ***.
I've tested and raced on them both. Not to mention countless other setups. Yeah, I tried them. Yep, the Swift/GTWorx/Robi + Bilsteins are better.
Yada yada - they are crap. You want to waste money - for it. You want to bash me - keep trying. Just like your sig - I speak from experience, professional background, and not my ***.
I've tested and raced on them both. Not to mention countless other setups. Yeah, I tried them. Yep, the Swift/GTWorx/Robi + Bilsteins are better.
Last edited by Smike; Jun 25, 2011 at 09:18 AM.
#23
Im personally running D2 street coils, and apparently they are one of the worst coilovers on the market, yet i find them pretty smooth. They handle fairly well, although i think the springs are a little soft when car is pushed in the corners.
I don't have much experience with other suspension setup on the evo, but i guess ill find out as soon as i swap to something else.
But for a daily driven evo that doesn't mind a little stiffer ride, any lower end coilover should be ok unless you live in a location where the streets are full of pot holes and major bumps.
Now if you start talking track days, and want something more soild, obviously the more money you have available, go with a higher costing coil and im sure the difference will be easily noticeable.
I don't have much experience with other suspension setup on the evo, but i guess ill find out as soon as i swap to something else.
But for a daily driven evo that doesn't mind a little stiffer ride, any lower end coilover should be ok unless you live in a location where the streets are full of pot holes and major bumps.
Now if you start talking track days, and want something more soild, obviously the more money you have available, go with a higher costing coil and im sure the difference will be easily noticeable.
#24
I'm sorry, don't mean to sound rude, what does that mean to someone who actually drives the car? I don't mean shifting at 2.5K, turning as slow as a semi, braking miles in advance, but actually running the thing in a sporting manner? You see, that's who you're talking to - people who drive their cars. As such, do you really think that a non-comparative impression gathered via less than purposeful means is applicable to discussions of handling prowess, relating to one of the best driving machines ever made by the human race?
#25
someone shifting at 2500? def not me
someone who actually drives their car, def sounds like me
braking miles in advance, def no need for that.
turning as slow as a semi? you either have no idea how to drive or you're completely sold by a price tag
im not blind, and i know my suspension isn't top notch, but what some people say about lower end coilovers is just nonsense. Some make it sound(just like you did), like you can't even take a corner unless your suspension is top notch, which is beyond a joke.
someone who actually drives their car, def sounds like me
braking miles in advance, def no need for that.
turning as slow as a semi? you either have no idea how to drive or you're completely sold by a price tag
im not blind, and i know my suspension isn't top notch, but what some people say about lower end coilovers is just nonsense. Some make it sound(just like you did), like you can't even take a corner unless your suspension is top notch, which is beyond a joke.
I'm sorry, don't mean to sound rude, what does that mean to someone who actually drives the car? I don't mean shifting at 2.5K, turning as slow as a semi, braking miles in advance, but actually running the thing in a sporting manner? You see, that's who you're talking to - people who drive their cars. As such, do you really think that a non-comparative impression gathered via less than purposeful means is applicable to discussions of handling prowess, relating to one of the best driving machines ever made by the human race?
#26
Yada yada - they are crap. You want to waste money - for it. You want to bash me - keep trying. Just like your sig - I speak from experience, professional background, and not my ***.
I've tested and raced on them both. Not to mention countless other setups. Yeah, I tried them. Yep, the Swift/GTWorx/Robi + Bilsteins are better.
I've tested and raced on them both. Not to mention countless other setups. Yeah, I tried them. Yep, the Swift/GTWorx/Robi + Bilsteins are better.
The point remains that you gave praise to the Megan's, but now feel something else is better. I believe you feel Megan's are not the best, but this does not make them crap.
Last week I had a good buddy of mine with a IX MR drive my car. He runs an agressive setup with KW V3 and all the other suspension goodies. He stated that he was impressed with the handling of the car.
As I read the OPs question he desires coilovers for a daily driver. When I posed the question to you last time about why Megan's were crap the only complaint you provided was spring rates. Those can be changed upon ordering. So if you truly feel they are crap then please state why they are crap and not why you feel something is better.
There is an old saying, attack issues and not people.
#27
someone shifting at 2500? def not me
someone who actually drives their car, def sounds like me
braking miles in advance, def no need for that.
turning as slow as a semi? you either have no idea how to drive or you're completely sold by a price tag
im not blind, and i know my suspension isn't top notch, but what some people say about lower end coilovers is just nonsense. Some make it sound(just like you did), like you can't even take a corner unless your suspension is top notch, which is beyond a joke.
someone who actually drives their car, def sounds like me
braking miles in advance, def no need for that.
turning as slow as a semi? you either have no idea how to drive or you're completely sold by a price tag
im not blind, and i know my suspension isn't top notch, but what some people say about lower end coilovers is just nonsense. Some make it sound(just like you did), like you can't even take a corner unless your suspension is top notch, which is beyond a joke.
Last edited by FJF; Jun 25, 2011 at 10:41 AM.
#28
Many moons ago I made a living setting up high-end audio systems. There was never a time when I walked into someone's room and didn't say the system sounded nice. There's such a thing as common courtesy among adults.
#29
I will conclude that I cannot trust your opinon.
Last edited by 240Z TwinTurbo; Jun 25, 2011 at 10:59 AM.
#30
240z savior of the Megans. Keep holding on to that dream they are better then what you think they are. And you still cant read past post number 1. Thread grew and has a lot more into it.
Yada yada - they are crap. You want to waste money - for it. You want to bash me - keep trying. Just like your sig - I speak from experience, professional background, and not my ***.
I've tested and raced on them both. Not to mention countless other setups. Yeah, I tried them. Yep, the Swift/GTWorx/Robi + Bilsteins are better.
Yada yada - they are crap. You want to waste money - for it. You want to bash me - keep trying. Just like your sig - I speak from experience, professional background, and not my ***.
I've tested and raced on them both. Not to mention countless other setups. Yeah, I tried them. Yep, the Swift/GTWorx/Robi + Bilsteins are better.
Ill just stick with dominating all the other AWD's in the NW since no one else can seem to listen to sound engineering.