BR is conducting a suspension test and looking for input
Oct 14, 2011, 05:14 PM
#1
BR is conducting a suspension test and looking for input
Alright guys, my mind is stuck on suspension and this is really the first time. Briefly, I started road racing, I got more and more involved, found out I do pretty good at it. Then I started looking at other people's set-ups and changed my own from cheap stuff to good stuff. Through all of this, like everything, I had my opinions, thoughts and doubts. Now I want to do some testing just like I have for making power for so long.
I'm wanted to post a poll but now realize it's not going to work. So, below are the questions I'd like to have you guys answer.
The suspension questions are for the shocks/springs ONLY. Cut and paste the questions below and fill in your answers, please:
WHAT SUSPENSION IS CURRENTLY ON YOUR EVO?
WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION?
IF YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT A SUSPENSION YET WHAT PRICE RANGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? 0-$500. $500-$1000. $1000-$2000. $2000+.
ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM?
IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED?
WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET?
WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON?
WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY?
1. Street tire tread wear 139 and under.
2. Street tire tread wear 140 or over.
3. DOT race tire, like A6, C51 etc.
4. Full race tire.
Thank you very much. I will start this show.
I'm wanted to post a poll but now realize it's not going to work. So, below are the questions I'd like to have you guys answer.
The suspension questions are for the shocks/springs ONLY. Cut and paste the questions below and fill in your answers, please:
WHAT SUSPENSION IS CURRENTLY ON YOUR EVO?
WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION?
IF YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT A SUSPENSION YET WHAT PRICE RANGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? 0-$500. $500-$1000. $1000-$2000. $2000+.
ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM?
IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED?
WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET?
WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON?
WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY?
1. Street tire tread wear 139 and under.
2. Street tire tread wear 140 or over.
3. DOT race tire, like A6, C51 etc.
4. Full race tire.
Thank you very much. I will start this show.
Oct 14, 2011, 05:16 PM
#2
WHAT SUSPENSION IS CURRENTLY ON YOUR EVO?
Apexi N1
WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION?
$1125 plus $400 for upgraded Swift springs.
IF YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT A SUSPENSION YET WHAT PRICE RANGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? 0-$500. $500-$1000. $1000-$2000. $2000+.
ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM?
Custom.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED?
No.
WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET?
Same for the street/track. -1.8, 0 toe front. 0 toe/0 camber rear
WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON?
265/40/17
WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY?
140+
1. Street tire tread wear 139 and under.
2. Street tire tread wear 140 or over.
3. DOT race tire, like A6, C51 etc.
4. Full race tire.
Apexi N1
WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION?
$1125 plus $400 for upgraded Swift springs.
IF YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT A SUSPENSION YET WHAT PRICE RANGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? 0-$500. $500-$1000. $1000-$2000. $2000+.
ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM?
Custom.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED?
No.
WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET?
Same for the street/track. -1.8, 0 toe front. 0 toe/0 camber rear
WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON?
265/40/17
WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY?
140+
1. Street tire tread wear 139 and under.
2. Street tire tread wear 140 or over.
3. DOT race tire, like A6, C51 etc.
4. Full race tire.
Oct 14, 2011, 05:24 PM
#3
WHAT SUSPENSION IS CURRENTLY ON YOUR EVO?
MR Bilsteins Swift Spec-R's (Currently replacing rears with Bilstein HD due to blowing the rear out)
WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION?
$400 for springs + $250 for HD rears
IF YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT A SUSPENSION YET WHAT PRICE RANGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT?
Still looking to upgrade to Ohlins R/T $3000 + cost of springs
ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM?
10K F (stock spring) / 12 K R (custom spring)
IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED?
No revalve until I need it.
WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET?
-2 Camber Front / -1.5 Camber rear Toe zeroed out front and back
WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON?
255/35/18
WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY?
Hankook RS3
MR Bilsteins Swift Spec-R's (Currently replacing rears with Bilstein HD due to blowing the rear out)
WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION?
$400 for springs + $250 for HD rears
IF YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT A SUSPENSION YET WHAT PRICE RANGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT?
Still looking to upgrade to Ohlins R/T $3000 + cost of springs
ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM?
10K F (stock spring) / 12 K R (custom spring)
IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED?
No revalve until I need it.
WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET?
-2 Camber Front / -1.5 Camber rear Toe zeroed out front and back
WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON?
255/35/18
WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY?
Hankook RS3
Last edited by JDMevoBOOST; Oct 17, 2011 at 12:21 PM.
Oct 14, 2011, 05:30 PM
#4
WHAT SUSPENSION IS CURRENTLY ON YOUR EVO?
Ohlins R/T
WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION?
$3k
ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM?
Stock spring rates reversed (8k front / 10k rear). Planning to switch to 10 front / 12k rear next season.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED?
No. Ohlins valving is good for a wide range of springs.
WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET?
-2.5 front, -1.5 rear, 0 toe all around. No change to street, just cheaper tires.
WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON?
255/40/17
WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY?
Hankook rs3 (140 treadwear)
Ohlins R/T
WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION?
$3k
ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM?
Stock spring rates reversed (8k front / 10k rear). Planning to switch to 10 front / 12k rear next season.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED?
No. Ohlins valving is good for a wide range of springs.
WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET?
-2.5 front, -1.5 rear, 0 toe all around. No change to street, just cheaper tires.
WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON?
255/40/17
WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY?
Hankook rs3 (140 treadwear)
Oct 14, 2011, 05:44 PM
#5
WHAT SUSPENSION IS CURRENTLY ON YOUR EVO?
Stock 06 GSR suspension
WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION?
N/A
IF YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT A SUSPENSION YET WHAT PRICE RANGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? 0-$500. $500-$1000. $1000-$2000. $2000+.
$1000-$2000
ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM?
Standard
IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED?
No
WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET?
-2 or less camber 0 Toe up front. -1 or less camber and 0 teo rear.
WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON?
255/40/17
WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY?
2. Street tire tread wear 140 or over.
Stock 06 GSR suspension
WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION?
N/A
IF YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT A SUSPENSION YET WHAT PRICE RANGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? 0-$500. $500-$1000. $1000-$2000. $2000+.
$1000-$2000
ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM?
Standard
IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED?
No
WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET?
-2 or less camber 0 Toe up front. -1 or less camber and 0 teo rear.
WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON?
255/40/17
WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY?
2. Street tire tread wear 140 or over.
Oct 14, 2011, 06:42 PM
#7
WHAT SUSPENSION IS CURRENTLY ON YOUR EVO? oem kyb struts w/ Robispec springs
WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION? ~$200 for Robispec springs
IF YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT A SUSPENSION YET WHAT PRICE RANGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? n/a
ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM?
I will run custom or whatever is recommended with my current setup.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED? If need be.
WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET? currently -2.0 fr camber, -1.0 rear camber, toe zeroed out. mostly track car. does not change for the few street miles it gets driven.
WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON? 255/35/18 currently on car
WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY?
.
3. DOT race tire, like A6, C51 etc.
fwiw its great to see David Buschur starting to focus more on autox/ road racing stuff
WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION? ~$200 for Robispec springs
IF YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT A SUSPENSION YET WHAT PRICE RANGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? n/a
ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM?
I will run custom or whatever is recommended with my current setup.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED? If need be.
WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET? currently -2.0 fr camber, -1.0 rear camber, toe zeroed out. mostly track car. does not change for the few street miles it gets driven.
WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON? 255/35/18 currently on car
WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY?
.
3. DOT race tire, like A6, C51 etc.
fwiw its great to see David Buschur starting to focus more on autox/ road racing stuff
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Oct 14, 2011, 06:45 PM
#8
WHAT SUSPENSION IS CURRENTLY ON YOUR EVO?
I have two suspension. Winter and Summer. Winter is Bilsteins with GTworx springs.
Summer is AMR coilovers.
WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION?
Coilover's were $1200 used. Springs have changed many times testing different setups.
IF YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT A SUSPENSION YET WHAT PRICE RANGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT?
Will probably upgrade to AST 5100's in the future, so ~3k.
ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM?
Custom rates. Also Ill have a set of tenders to play with increasing droop and spring preload vs travel.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED?
I hope to win the revalving costs (national tour and prosolo wins).
WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET?
Winter: -1.5front/-1rear, 0 Toe.
Summer: -3.5front/-1.5 rear, 0 Toe on the street, +.25 on course.
WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON?
285/295
WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY?
1. Street tire tread wear 139 and under.
2. Street tire tread wear 140 or over.
3. DOT race tire, like A6, C51 etc.
4. Full race tire.
DOT Race, Kumho for local trash course, Hooser for Packwood (bigger/better course)
I have two suspension. Winter and Summer. Winter is Bilsteins with GTworx springs.
Summer is AMR coilovers.
WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION?
Coilover's were $1200 used. Springs have changed many times testing different setups.
IF YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT A SUSPENSION YET WHAT PRICE RANGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT?
Will probably upgrade to AST 5100's in the future, so ~3k.
ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM?
Custom rates. Also Ill have a set of tenders to play with increasing droop and spring preload vs travel.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED?
I hope to win the revalving costs (national tour and prosolo wins).
WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET?
Winter: -1.5front/-1rear, 0 Toe.
Summer: -3.5front/-1.5 rear, 0 Toe on the street, +.25 on course.
WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON?
285/295
WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY?
1. Street tire tread wear 139 and under.
2. Street tire tread wear 140 or over.
3. DOT race tire, like A6, C51 etc.
4. Full race tire.
DOT Race, Kumho for local trash course, Hooser for Packwood (bigger/better course)
Oct 14, 2011, 06:58 PM
#9
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WHAT SUSPENSION IS CURRENTLY ON YOUR EVO? KW V3 Robi Spec
WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION? used $1000
IF YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT A SUSPENSION YET WHAT PRICE RANGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? 0-$500. $500-$1000. $1000-$2000. $2000+. n/a
ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM? standard
IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED? robi spec valved
WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET? -2* camber up and 0 toe front / -1* camber and 0 toe rear
WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON? 255/40/17
WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY? Hankook RS3 140 treadwear for now but will be looking into a R compound or full slick next year
1. Street tire tread wear 139 and under.
2. Street tire tread wear 140 or over.
3. DOT race tire, like A6, C51 etc.
4. Full race tire.
WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION? used $1000
IF YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT A SUSPENSION YET WHAT PRICE RANGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? 0-$500. $500-$1000. $1000-$2000. $2000+. n/a
ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM? standard
IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED? robi spec valved
WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET? -2* camber up and 0 toe front / -1* camber and 0 toe rear
WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON? 255/40/17
WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY? Hankook RS3 140 treadwear for now but will be looking into a R compound or full slick next year
1. Street tire tread wear 139 and under.
2. Street tire tread wear 140 or over.
3. DOT race tire, like A6, C51 etc.
4. Full race tire.
Oct 14, 2011, 10:13 PM
#10
WHAT SUSPENSION IS CURRENTLY ON YOUR EVO?
AST 4100
WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION?
2000
IF YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT A SUSPENSION YET WHAT PRICE RANGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? 0-$500. $500-$1000. $1000-$2000. $2000+.
N/A
ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM?
Custom 11kF / 12kR
IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED?
No. If I go any higher I will need to though
WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET?
Street and track F -2.5 R -1.5 zero toe all corners
WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON?
255/40/17. Might be going to a 275/30/18
WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY?
1. Street tire tread wear 139 and under.
2. Street tire tread wear 140 or over.
3. DOT race tire, like A6, C51 etc.
4. Full race tire.
currently Star Specs. Want to pick up A6s
AST 4100
WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION?
2000
IF YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT A SUSPENSION YET WHAT PRICE RANGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? 0-$500. $500-$1000. $1000-$2000. $2000+.
N/A
ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM?
Custom 11kF / 12kR
IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED?
No. If I go any higher I will need to though
WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET?
Street and track F -2.5 R -1.5 zero toe all corners
WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON?
255/40/17. Might be going to a 275/30/18
WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY?
1. Street tire tread wear 139 and under.
2. Street tire tread wear 140 or over.
3. DOT race tire, like A6, C51 etc.
4. Full race tire.
currently Star Specs. Want to pick up A6s
Oct 14, 2011, 10:24 PM
#11
2 comments:
1) Shouldn't this be in the suspension section?
2) This doesn't seem like much of a test. Looks like market research more so than anything.
That being said:
WHAT SUSPENSION IS CURRENTLY ON YOUR EVO?
Bilstein PSS9
WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION?
$1800
ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU
INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM?
Standard for now. Will go custom long term
IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED?
If it requires it then yes
WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET?
Front: -2 camber, 0 toe. Rear: -1 camber, 0.01 toe in. Same on street
WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON?
255s
WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY?
1. Street tire tread wear 139 and under.
2. Street tire tread wear 140 or over.
1) Shouldn't this be in the suspension section?
2) This doesn't seem like much of a test. Looks like market research more so than anything.
That being said:
WHAT SUSPENSION IS CURRENTLY ON YOUR EVO?
Bilstein PSS9
WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION?
$1800
ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU
INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM?
Standard for now. Will go custom long term
IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED?
If it requires it then yes
WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET?
Front: -2 camber, 0 toe. Rear: -1 camber, 0.01 toe in. Same on street
WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON?
255s
WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY?
1. Street tire tread wear 139 and under.
2. Street tire tread wear 140 or over.
Oct 14, 2011, 11:10 PM
#12
As for the statement about market research, that is not the case. The reason I asked the questions I did I am trying to put together what we need to test. What I mean is, what is the most relevant tests to perform. We will have one day to do everything we can and want good data. It's getting late in the year and I'd like to get this done. For example, already from the answers I can see the alignment specs most guys are running are similar to mine and don't change. That tells me most guys are interested in something that isn't going to destroy their tires driving daily. This also tells me trying to get -4 degrees of front camber isn't going to appeal to the masses, which helps a ton.
For those of you adding information, thank you very much.
Mods, I was trying to get the most answers possible. If any of you feel moving it to the suspension section or motorsports section is best, please do so.
For those of you adding information, thank you very much.
Mods, I was trying to get the most answers possible. If any of you feel moving it to the suspension section or motorsports section is best, please do so.
Oct 14, 2011, 11:43 PM
#13
WHAT SUSPENSION IS CURRENTLY ON YOUR EVO? MR Bilsteins with Swift Spec-Rs
WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION? Bartered for Bilsteins, Swifts were around $250
IF YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT A SUSPENSION YET WHAT PRICE RANGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? 0-$500. $500-$1000. $1000-$2000. $2000+. N/A
ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM? Actually running the GSR (KYB) version Swifts on the Bilsteins so I guess that they are custom LOL
IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED? Thought about sending the Bilsteins in for revalving...
WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET? 1.7 front 0.8 rear toe zero'd out same for street use
WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON? 255/35/18
WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY? Federal 595RSR
WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION? Bartered for Bilsteins, Swifts were around $250
IF YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT A SUSPENSION YET WHAT PRICE RANGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? 0-$500. $500-$1000. $1000-$2000. $2000+. N/A
ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM? Actually running the GSR (KYB) version Swifts on the Bilsteins so I guess that they are custom LOL
IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED? Thought about sending the Bilsteins in for revalving...
WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET? 1.7 front 0.8 rear toe zero'd out same for street use
WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON? 255/35/18
WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY? Federal 595RSR
Oct 14, 2011, 11:50 PM
#14
WHAT SUSPENSION IS CURRENTLY ON YOUR EVO?
PIC Select R2 w/custom rates and custom valving
WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION?
$1200
IF YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT A SUSPENSION YET WHAT PRICE RANGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? 0-$500. $500-$1000. $1000-$2000. $2000+.
If I change, I'm looking at $2000+
ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM?
Custom (current and future)
IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED?
Yes (current and future)
WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET?
Street
camber: -2.5f/-1.5r
Caster: 5f
toe: 0f/0r
Track
Camber: -3.5f/-1.5r
Caster: 7f
toe: undetermined, but likely toe out front and rear
WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON?
275/35/18
WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY?
3. DOT race tire, like A6, C51 etc.
FWIW, -2.5* up front was NO WHERE near enough camber on the R-comps. I was only getting heat in the outer 1/3 of the tire. -4 degrees on the other hand GREATLY improved grip. And 0 rear camber? That's probably why your car feels so loose, you are giving up a ton of rear grip with 0 rear camber. Sure it's tail happy, but would more rear grip actually make the car faster...
If you really want to test things out, start looking at overall geometry. Something like a roll correction kit, but something that actually works on a heavily lowered car. The 1/4" arm drop you get with the Whitelines is a marginal change. I'm talking 1.5" arm drop and adjustable bumpsteer with a couple degrees extra caster.
PIC Select R2 w/custom rates and custom valving
WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION?
$1200
IF YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT A SUSPENSION YET WHAT PRICE RANGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? 0-$500. $500-$1000. $1000-$2000. $2000+.
If I change, I'm looking at $2000+
ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM?
Custom (current and future)
IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED?
Yes (current and future)
WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET?
Street
camber: -2.5f/-1.5r
Caster: 5f
toe: 0f/0r
Track
Camber: -3.5f/-1.5r
Caster: 7f
toe: undetermined, but likely toe out front and rear
WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON?
275/35/18
WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY?
3. DOT race tire, like A6, C51 etc.
FWIW, -2.5* up front was NO WHERE near enough camber on the R-comps. I was only getting heat in the outer 1/3 of the tire. -4 degrees on the other hand GREATLY improved grip. And 0 rear camber? That's probably why your car feels so loose, you are giving up a ton of rear grip with 0 rear camber. Sure it's tail happy, but would more rear grip actually make the car faster...
If you really want to test things out, start looking at overall geometry. Something like a roll correction kit, but something that actually works on a heavily lowered car. The 1/4" arm drop you get with the Whitelines is a marginal change. I'm talking 1.5" arm drop and adjustable bumpsteer with a couple degrees extra caster.
Last edited by 03whitegsr; Oct 14, 2011 at 11:59 PM.
Oct 14, 2011, 11:57 PM
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As for the statement about market research, that is not the case. The reason I asked the questions I did I am trying to put together what we need to test. What I mean is, what is the most relevant tests to perform. We will have one day to do everything we can and want good data. It's getting late in the year and I'd like to get this done. For example, already from the answers I can see the alignment specs most guys are running are similar to mine and don't change. That tells me most guys are interested in something that isn't going to destroy their tires driving daily. This also tells me trying to get -4 degrees of front camber isn't going to appeal to the masses, which helps a ton.
For those of you adding information, thank you very much.
Mods, I was trying to get the most answers possible. If any of you feel moving it to the suspension section or motorsports section is best, please do so.
For those of you adding information, thank you very much.
Mods, I was trying to get the most answers possible. If any of you feel moving it to the suspension section or motorsports section is best, please do so.
Of these, what I want to do is upgrade from my gtworx setup to the ohlins dfv - reason being that they can do what the ast4100s can on the track while riding like the gtworx setup does on the street.
If it's just a ***** out speed test I'm sure most of the coilover setups will be a wash. For both track AND livability (and my back) I want the Ohlins. The setup for my car I consider to be fairly mild.
WHAT SUSPENSION IS CURRENTLY ON YOUR EVO?
GTWorx Springs and Bilstein HD Struts
WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION?
~$1k
ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM?
I believe the GTWorx springs are roughly 5k/6k, and are progressive springs
IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED?
No.
WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET?
-2 front, -1.5 rear, 0 toe. No change.
WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON?
235/45/17
WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY?
Roughly 140+ treadwear
Last edited by kyoo; Oct 15, 2011 at 12:02 AM.