Notices
Evo X Dyno Results Discuss vendor and member dyno tuning techniques, results and graphs.

Factory Boost Control VS upgraded boost assembly (pill)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 20, 2008, 11:15 AM
  #1  
EvoM Guru
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
RazorLab's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Mid-Hudson, NY
Posts: 14,071
Received 1,056 Likes on 764 Posts
Factory Boost Control VS upgraded boost assembly (pill)

Nothing to see here. This forum is trash now.

Last edited by razorlab; Sep 14, 2019 at 07:19 AM.
Old Nov 20, 2008, 11:20 AM
  #2  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Rguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Arlington Va
Posts: 923
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I know first hand the factory boost control can do better than 21.5 psi...
Old Nov 20, 2008, 11:26 AM
  #3  
EvoM Guru
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
RazorLab's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Mid-Hudson, NY
Posts: 14,071
Received 1,056 Likes on 764 Posts
Originally Posted by Rguy
I know first hand the factory boost control can do better than 21.5 psi...
Peak sure, that isn't what I was posting about.
Old Nov 20, 2008, 11:35 AM
  #4  
EvoM Guru
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
RazorLab's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Mid-Hudson, NY
Posts: 14,071
Received 1,056 Likes on 764 Posts
Updated first post with WGDC % data and some changes
Old Nov 20, 2008, 01:37 PM
  #5  
Evolved Member
 
KPerez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 1,571
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Great results Blade! If everyone that provides detailed results like this on EVO M we would all be better informed! Not only is the boost higher up top but down below as well. What does this "mod" involve, dropping a restriction in WGA for tightening the WG does not achieve the results you got? I have no idea. Please, some details.

Later, Ken
Old Nov 20, 2008, 02:26 PM
  #6  
Evolving Member
 
Jason's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Jamaica/FortLauderdale
Posts: 185
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by KPerez
Great results Blade! If everyone that provides detailed results like this on EVO M we would all be better informed! Not only is the boost higher up top but down below as well. What does this "mod" involve, dropping a restriction in WGA for tightening the WG does not achieve the results you got? I have no idea. Please, some details.

Later, Ken
+1 very interested in this mod
Old Nov 20, 2008, 02:45 PM
  #7  
EvoM Guru
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
RazorLab's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Mid-Hudson, NY
Posts: 14,071
Received 1,056 Likes on 764 Posts
Originally Posted by KPerez
Great results Blade! If everyone that provides detailed results like this on EVO M we would all be better informed! Not only is the boost higher up top but down below as well. What does this "mod" involve, dropping a restriction in WGA for tightening the WG does not achieve the results you got? I have no idea. Please, some details.

Later, Ken
Wastegate actuator tension is left as it came from the factory.

The boost assembly replaces the OEM factory boost assembly. It still looks 100% OEM from the outside, because it is.

We upgrade the pill on the pressure side, just like we did with the Evo 8 and 9's running ECU-controlled boost. This has to be tuned for, if you just install it without a tune the car will overboost.
Old Nov 20, 2008, 02:52 PM
  #8  
Newbie
iTrader: (6)
 
Maxmumboom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: .......
Posts: 58
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Where does a MBC rank up against these two controlers? Any data?
Old Nov 20, 2008, 03:12 PM
  #9  
EvoM Guru
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
RazorLab's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Mid-Hudson, NY
Posts: 14,071
Received 1,056 Likes on 764 Posts
Originally Posted by Maxmumboom
Where does a MBC rank up against these two controlers? Any data?
I haven't tuned a Evo X with a MBC yet so no data.

One advantage I know right off the bat is that the ECU-controlled boost with upgraded boost assembly looks 100% OEM stock. The dealer wouldn't even have an idea it's been changed visually.

Another advantage is full boost control over 18 RPM points and a 3D TPS/Load table, full error correction via 3D TPS/Load table and some other cool little things.

Basically a very full featured Electronic RPM based boost controller, free with your Evo 10.

Last edited by razorlab; Nov 20, 2008 at 03:14 PM.
Old Nov 20, 2008, 06:52 PM
  #10  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (10)
 
JoeyM3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: North San Diego
Posts: 1,885
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
how much do you charge to install the new boost assembly and also a tune? i need a tune lol. . .
Old Nov 20, 2008, 11:41 PM
  #11  
Evolved Member
 
STi2EvoX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 1,849
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
RazorLab: Will you sell the pill upgrade for those interested or give us the pill #/orfice size? Thanks for including the info about WGDC tuning; I can give this to my tuner to help him save time in tuning the boost. Just out of curiosity, why not run the secondary solenoid at 100% at 7400 rpm? It looks like on the dyno plot that power stops climbing and flattens out right about at that same spot in the RPM range. Just curious...

Last edited by STi2EvoX; Nov 20, 2008 at 11:45 PM.
Old Nov 20, 2008, 11:57 PM
  #12  
EvoM Guru
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
RazorLab's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Mid-Hudson, NY
Posts: 14,071
Received 1,056 Likes on 764 Posts
Originally Posted by STi2EvoX
RazorLab: Will you sell the pill upgrade for those interested or give us the pill #/orfice size? Thanks for including the info about WGDC tuning; I can give this to my tuner to help him save time in tuning the boost. Just out of curiosity, why not run the secondary solenoid at 100% at 7400 rpm? It looks like on the dyno plot that power stops climbing and flattens out right about at that same spot in the RPM range. Just curious...
It got a bit grumpy with more boost. It does only have a Drop-in filter after all.

It needs to breath more, which will come soon.

We will have pill and boost assembly on the site very soon.
Old Nov 21, 2008, 02:30 AM
  #13  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Deepseadiver's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: GUAM, USA
Posts: 1,102
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
sounds great! Can't wait for ECUFlash. What site will this boost pill be sold on?
Old Nov 21, 2008, 03:16 AM
  #14  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (2)
 
gunzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 1,328
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts


I think I'm gonna try this also .. I like less duty cycles so I know I can go further ..
gonna drop by the website later ..
Do I dig out the original pill or replace the entire hose?

Hey .. you missed out the cool GEAR DEPENDENT BOOST !!
Old Nov 21, 2008, 05:25 AM
  #15  
Evolving Member
iTrader: (5)
 
davidiii's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Around
Posts: 166
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
wow sounds very promising...subscribed!


Quick Reply: Factory Boost Control VS upgraded boost assembly (pill)



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:51 PM.