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Old May 26, 2009, 01:38 PM
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Miguel's TTP-Tuned 5sp GSR- INJEN intake!



Miguel has had an interesting week jumping around from dyno to dyno in town here. After having his car tuned elsewhere with some ridiculous numbers 394/404 on pumpgas, he realized there was something wrong with the readings and took it to another dyno near his home where it dynoed in the low 300's.

Realizing that his car's power level was not what it appeared to be, he took down his dynosheets from evom in embarassment and gave us a call at TTP.

He contacted us for the retuning of his ECU and also to remove the manual boost control and move to ECU controlled boost.

The first thing we did was baseline the car as is where it put down 310whp on our dyno. Then we moved to swap out the MBC for the stock lines again so we could control the boost via the stock ECU.

In short time we had this completed and were on to overwriting the existing mapping and loading TTP custom MIVEC control, ECU controlled boost, fueling and ignition timing changes, boost limits, airflow mapping etc.

By the end of the tuning session, Miguel was able to remove his MBC and sell it, gained much power and tq over the baseline and no longer had the LIMP MODES all of the time with the previous reflash.

We do not want to get into a pissing match with the prior tuner so instead we have overlayed his last dynosheet with current mods and no tuning to our custom tuning with the same mods, less the removal of the MBC and using electronic ECU boost control.

Here are the results:




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Looks like you guys have been busy!
Old May 26, 2009, 03:39 PM
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Big difference to that other shop! lol

Good job
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Looks nice, now lower that ride!
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Originally Posted by clark_kent
looks nice, now lower that ride!
^^ +1
Old May 26, 2009, 07:25 PM
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every single one of your posts on here are equally impressive. as always awesome job!
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I guess ill be the second one in with that set up... save it!
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Much better. Glad the customer was taken care of.
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if anything it goes to show how different dynos can be with the numbers. it is really all about the gains.
there was a 23% difference between 1 shop's dyno vs TTP's (yes i know there are additional factors). bump for a great job
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Originally Posted by Clark_Kent
Looks nice, now lower that ride!
Why? so he can f up the roll centers...

How about:
"Now lower that bish and add a roll center correction kit"

To the OP.

Glad you got sorted out man, fwiw that "other" dyno was reading crank hp. I also noticed they never once mentioned whp, only hp so that kinda backs up my claim that they are calibrated to read crank HP not wheel and they know it.

Nice work TTP
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haha funny how cft never mentioned that their numbers are estimated from the crank, artifically inflating numbers to satisfy their customers. shameful.

but at least miguel doesn't have to be harassed about it anymore
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All the owner had to do was do a baseline dyno on that other shop's dyno and then do a final dyno run on the same dyno and look at the GAINS. He could have saved himself a lot of money running around from dyno to dyno.

It is really tragic how people think that the numbers that a dyno spits out mean something. If the numbers on your dyno sheet are not compared to another dyno sheet from your car, then these numbers mean absolutely nothing.

Nevertheless, It is clear that this tune made gains over the previous tune from the other shop since TTP did it the right way by doing a baseline and then doing a final run after the tune.
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Originally Posted by endGameXIII
haha funny how cft never mentioned that their numbers are estimated from the crank, artifically inflating numbers to satisfy their customers. shameful.

but at least miguel doesn't have to be harassed about it anymore
Here we go again. The numbers do not matter, GAINS matter. The mistake that CFT did was not to baseline the car and simply provide the owner with a final dyno run. Had they posted a sheet with a baseline run and a final run, then we could see the gains. GAINS are what matters.
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Originally Posted by nj1266
Here we go again. The numbers do not matter, GAINS matter. The mistake that CFT did was not to baseline the car and simply provide the owner with a final dyno run. Had they posted a sheet with a baseline run and a final run, then we could see the gains. GAINS are what matters.
still doesn't change the fact they gave inflated values without making their customers aware
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Good gain for sure, in the end the dyno is just a tool.


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