whens jester going to be in town again?

 

Those are sick numbers for a stock X!!!!!!!

 

i agree !!

 

x3, I know Jestr is the man but its good to have a baseline to know what you gained, yeah you can go off of other peoples #s but those #s aren't yours.

Before i got tuned by Mase on his Dyno dynamics with a K&N drop in and UICP it put down 242whp and final # was 312whp, gain of 70whp.

 

what does a stock x put down on this dyno?

 

Well this is believable but quite impressive. He should have gotten a baseline. Also, he's not just stock because he did turn up the boost to achieve those numbers.

Another way he can test to see if it really is a factory freak is to add exhaust, turn up the boost even more and see where he's at. If the car doesn't make much more whp then he just got the best tune he could get and the car is already reaching it's limits with the current tune and stock setup.

If he can get over 400whp with adding just meth/E85, exhaust, jacking up timing and more boost while remaining on the stock intercooler, intake, turbo, cams, etc.. then he has a factory freak.

 

If he's running 93oct then I'd believe it. A well tuned X with basic bolt-ons will do 340 on MAP's Dynojet.

We all like to believe that our supporting bolt-ons add a lot to peak power, but they don't. Some improve the curve (cams), others make the power more consistent (fmic, radiator), others improve throttle response (uicp/licp, intake, throttle body), but peak power isn't helped a whole lot without major upgrades (fuel, turbo).

I've wasted a lot of money grabbing 1-2 hp gains. <shrug>

 

The question is what basic bolt-ons? You obviously need more volumetric efficiency to produce more power. If you say basic bolt-ons, that opens up a wide range of possibilities and doesn't make it a factory freak.

Agreed.

Disagree.

 

A drop-in and the cheapest 3" tbe that money can buy is what I'd consider basic.

I've seen a number of these cars within 10hp of cars that have every overpriced, name-brand bolt-on that you'd care to name (e.g. my car).

If there's one lesson I've learned with this car it's that most aftermarket parts are for show. It'd be a lot cheaper to buy some designer clothes and just keep the hood shut at meets.

 

That's relative. Basic bolt-ons include:

UICP
LICP
FMIC
Intake pipes
BOV
Boost controller
TBE
Cams

All of that will give some kind of power depending on how you use them.

That is very true, but all cars are different too. Some make more power than others with just stock stuff on the car. Most aren't so lucky.

Agree.

 

What did it put down on the baseline run?

 

You asked how I defined it. I'd call that full bolt-ons and then some.

My definition of 'basic' only includes what a non-mechanic with a basic set of tools could do in his/her garage. Cams wouldn't qualify and anything requiring an immediate re-tune for the car to function (fueling, a turbo) also would not.

 

Then you should disqualify turning up the boost because that's the only way you are going to get the big power gains.

We shouldn't fool ourselves into thinking the Evo X can make gobs of power without turning up the boost and tuning the car for it. And that is definitely a "basic bolt-on" part and is the part that makes the most power mod-wise outside of an upgraded turbo (which I don't consider a basic bolt-on either).

-M

 

where is he located

 

How far you can safely turn up the boost is directly related to what fuel you are running. In my mind it is the fuel that is adding power, the boost is sort of a 'supporting mod' that goes with the fuel.

I'll be the first to say that I'm a novice when it comes to motors, so I may not be thinking about it 100% right.