goodhart

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^^Just to make it 100% clear, scheides isn't sponsored.


Side note: I think it would be sweet if someone from a totally independent facility (If there is such a thing with the soap opera type drama on these national sites) tested both these manifolds vs. a stocker some day. It would almost have to be at a shop that does not even specialize in Evo's though, just to get clear data that no one could ***** about anyone "playing favorites towards one side or the other.

ZWingerRyRy

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I'd beable to do some testing if you need it. I go to RS Motors which i believe isnt affiliated with neither companies products.

Built 2.0 JE/SRP-Manley Turbo Tuff
Kelford 214B's
Kelford Springs
FP Black
Ferrea Competition Plus Valves
BlaqOps Double Pump
2150cc FIC Injectors
Primo 3.5 Intake
MAP Rev 3 Intake Manifold
Ultimate Racing o2/DP
Buschur Exhaust
Custom Testpipe
Grimmspeed 3Port
ETS 3.5 Intercooler Kit
etc..

scheides

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Incorrect--I am self-sponsored! LOL!

Good candidate but I'm sure someone will call you or Ron a cheater for one reason or another :P

goodhart

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So true, would almost make a trip out to Beyond Redline in WI, or Excessive in Sioux Falls, SD worth the trip. Though I'm sure someone would still be unhappy with the results haha

TheNEWB

Well I would like to thank you for doing this write up and using your own time to show the side by side results to us the Forum Users.

Thank you.

anasmak11

What would be the difference between the FiD and stock ported? and what about spool differences?

scheides

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Spool will likely suffer slightly, top-end will improve nice and progressively (more and more as rpms go up). Here's a comparo done on an evo IX, to give you an idea:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...-manifold.html

Weigh that against the gains I saw vs an unported stocker with the MAP manifold:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ting-evox.html

Just remember the ~15% variance between dynos when you look at these though, dynojet reads a little higher. You should see significant gains going from a ported stocker to either of these manifolds!

Noize

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Gentlemen, I have restored this thread to where the original data from the scheides is present as intended.

From everything I can see, both manifolds are very fine pieces. I don't want to edit tech, but keeping the same tune on both manifolds was the spirit of the main post, so the thread has been restored to reflect those variables.

I'm not pointing fingers at either side, but if I allow rampant speculation and comparison that pits vendors against each other in a hostile manner, everyone loses.

Let's keep this one on topic, please.

mrfred

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great test scheides. i feel for ya on the family/wife thing. if murlo is unable to find the time to do the retest, i might be able to convince 3dman1 to do it at english racing on this fp red 2.3L.

whitecomet

nice test I am sure both are nice products. Murlo is yours a rev 2 or rev 3 porting job?

BLKCarbonEVO

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Test car here and still running stock manifold. I hate both venders so I won't be bias! jk jk jk

Nice manifold, both are!

Mikey

bimmer8181

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Excellent craftsmanship.

murlo26

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Rev 2 and 3 porting from MAP is the intake mani not the exhaust. The ported stocker (exhaust) is just one type of porting.