mrfred

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Kinda interesting that several people seem to be waiting for Deatchwerks to release a 1000 cc/min injector. It looks like they modify a Lucas injector just like RC Engineering, so I'm wondering what's so special about Deatschwerks?

GST Motorsports

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I would imagine because it's going to be a direct plug and play with the Evo 10, or so they say.

The current Bosch 1000's need the pigtails to work on the Evo 10

-Bryan

mrfred

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Ah right, this is in the Evo 10 forums! In that case, forget my comment about it looking like a Lucas injector. The pic of the 800 cc/min injector they are offering for the Evo 10 does not look like a Lucas. It doesn't look like anything I've seen. It lacks the long extension that I've seen on the stock Evo 10 injectors. I think the Bosch injector from Injector Dynamics also lacks an extension. I would have thought it would be necessary.

GST Motorsports

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What extension? The actual wiring plug?

The Bosch 1000's that ID sell bolt right in and look like stock once installed. The actual plug part is different and needs a wiring pigtail for each injector.

mrfred

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There is a picture in the FSM of a stock injector showing a long extension tube coming off the bottom of the injector where the fuel comes out.

Here's a pic of a set of stock injectors that someone has for sale. BTW, after seeing this pic, its pretty clear that the stock injectors are Bosch units. I just read that the Deatschwerks are Denso units.

GST Motorsports

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Ah yes, the bosch 1000's do not have that. I had the same concern but T1R said they work fine and they did work just fine.

Tony1

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The stock injectors are Bosch EV14's with a Denso connector.

In the stock configuration, they have a pretty wide spray pattern so the extension on the tip is necessary to prevent 'wall wetting' of the runner.

The ID1000's have a 5 deg included spray angle and a very low velocity discharge. The atomization is great and the narrow spray angle will work especially well in this situation. An injector with a wide spray angle and without a long tip like the stock ones probably won't be ideal for this application.

SiC

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I'm running the DW800s with a Blouch Dom 2.0 & Cosworth cams. When I crank my boost up to 1.9bars (27.5 psi) @ 7200 RPM 4th gear, the IDC is right around 90%. If you wanna stay below 90% with a GT3076, I would suggest using 1000cc or larger injectors.

burnings

Hi Sic, may I know how did you calculate the IDC?

SiC

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ECUTek DeltaDash & recently been testing out Evoscan. In Evoscan you'll need to use this parameter that WARMnSCSI posted:
You'll also need to log Injector Pulse Width on CAN 8-1 in order for it to work.

I'm not 100% sure if the numbers shown in Evoscan are correct but it seems to be really close to what I saw on DeltaDash.

nj1266

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nevermind

Hiboost

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That's what I was worried about, I think 1000 cc is what I am going to hold out for then. :P

burnings

Alright... I only have PCMScan right now. Havent purchased evoscan yet. Thanks!!

Papi4baby

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Funny, my understanding was the DW takes OEM injectors and modify them! So the DW 800 injectors are not the mitsu OEM modify to flow more???

ETS Michael

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This sounds like the way to go!

To the OP, how much boost do you plan on running using E-85 and 1000cc injectors?

Thanks,

Michael