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Old Apr 8, 2011 | 11:31 AM
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By a road tune do you mean they actually drive the car and tune it or do you give them logs of you driving and then they make a tune for your car like ams does with the e-tune?
Same difference whether you drive it or a tuner drives it really. Still reviewing logs and making changes
Old Apr 8, 2011 | 12:18 PM
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the road tune is the best, but a same time is a most difficult. For obvious reasons, unless you own a race track /not drag a one/Usually the dyno tune is just a base tune for a road tune for racers.
Old Apr 8, 2011 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Robevo RS
the road tune is the best, but a same time is a most difficult. For obvious reasons, unless you own a race track /not drag a one/Usually the dyno tune is just a base tune for a road tune for racers.
Wut? You need to repeat yourself a couple more times in the same sentence to repeat your sentence a couple more times in the same sentence.
Old Apr 8, 2011 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by hockey88
By a road tune do you mean they actually drive the car and tune it or do you give them logs of you driving and then they make a tune for your car like ams does with the e-tune?
a e-tune is actually easier to do then it is sitting in the car hunched up with a laptop on your lap barely being able to edit the map and not being able to view the 3d portion of the map due to lack of resolution on the monitor.. an e-tune will always be better if the person knows what hes doing vs a road tune..

when you get remote tuned (e-tuned) whatever you want to call it, the tuner is in a more relaxed environment, doesn't feel rushed, doesn't feel out of place, etc.. since hes doing it in his own environment that he chooses..

plus being able to do it on bigger then 1080p resolution 24inch+ lcd screen being able to view everything possible makes the process a lot quicker and results in much smoother transitions on the map since you're able to view the 3d portion of the map to smooth every aspect out that should be smoothened.

some tuners don't smooth, some block,.. depends on the tuner. evo's should be tuned smooth not blocked which takes more time to complete, but the end result is always better drivability.

The only time i would recommend an actual road tune is if the owner doesn't know anything about his car and he needs everything diagnosed.. if theres a misfire, or sputter etc, and he doesn't know how to describe the noise occurring then that can be a problem with a remote tune. (although can usually be detected from the log file)

And of course a dyno tune if the person lives in the city and has no way of safely doing a road/remote tune on a country road.. then of course he or she would want to pay for a dyno tune to get done safely.

That is my opinion on the whole ordeal.

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Old Apr 8, 2011 | 05:57 PM
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Dyno; easy choice.
Old Apr 8, 2011 | 07:34 PM
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Ive seen way to many tunes be different after being done on a dyno. Obviously its not very safe to road tune but I believe the car should be logged on the street afterwards to ensure safety
Old Apr 9, 2011 | 09:31 AM
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So who are some of the companies that do e-tunes. I know ams does. Who else? Who is considered to be the best at this? Thanks for all the help on my questions guys.
Old Apr 9, 2011 | 09:53 AM
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dynos will never be able to replace the reality of road tune and the environment PERIOD. Dyno tunes are expensive not because they are better but because you putting wear and tear on the dyno plu the hourly rate for the tuner. Road tune all you pay is for the knowledge of the tuner and his time abviously. Plus road tune = at your own risk = ticket. Dyno = safe= not putting other drivers in danger.

I like road tune, usually the freeway or the service drives are the best.
Old Apr 9, 2011 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteyTurbo@KHC
A mustang dyno is capable of reproducing this scenerio exactly, as well as any other road condition. An eddy current dyno has every advantage of a road tune with the benefit of all the data and lack of variability that the on road testing has. Win Win for dyno tune.
Can't reproduce climate changes with altitude changes (except for people who live in flat boring land :P)
Old Apr 11, 2011 | 08:21 AM
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Can't reproduce climate changes with altitude changes (except for people who live in flat boring land :P)
Nope the ECU takes care of that itself
Old Apr 11, 2011 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by gsrboi80
Nope the ECU takes care of that itself
Guess I was speaking from a PSI based boost point of view..
Old Apr 12, 2011 | 06:24 PM
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How would ams or whoever know the afr's since evoscan doesnt allow me to use the aem uego ( that i know of ) Thinkinh about having a pro look at mine too!
Old Apr 12, 2011 | 07:51 PM
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evoscan works with aem uego, you just need to make a serial to usb cable so you can plug it into your laptop. once plugged in, it will display under device manager, then you set evoscan to the comm port it decides to use and then the evoscan will log the gauge data directly onto evoscan via "external wideband" being ticked.

There are write ups on the forum about this if you do a search.

you can also tap into the ecu for a signal also (searching forum shows this also)
Old Apr 12, 2011 | 11:08 PM
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I personally would do both. Dyno to tune the Mivec maps, base timing/fuel and then street tune to fine tune the AFR. I don't see how anyone tunes the Mivec cam angles w/o a dyno to show before and after results.
Old Apr 20, 2011 | 09:45 AM
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I've had both a street tune and a dyno tune. Street tunes give better driveability, but can also be dangerous. Dyno tunes are more safe and its easier to make changes. Dave at psi proformance dyno tuned mine and he did an awesome job



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