Part II: Evo X Tuned
Feb 6, 2008, 05:22 PM
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I think the big question is: does the motor give more gains with similar tunes? In other words, give the car it's AFRs of 11s and give it the timing that it's comfortable with. Do the same on the IX - both bone stock. Then start modding with intake, exhaust, etc.. Will the car - in EVERY scenario - make more power? I stress every scenario because the IX could be more restrictive with some parts than others (and likewise to the X). If I give a well tuned IX an open intake and then tune for that and it yields, say, 10whp.. then do the same thing to the X, will it yield say 20whp?? Everything else being EQUAL?
Feb 6, 2008, 05:37 PM
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Here, better question. Why does anyone care?!
This is so 13yr old it's rediculous. Your right Boostez, it's not "haters", it's people wanting to believe they have the best.
People are afraid of the new and unknown so they shun it. It's retarded and child like. An Evo is an Evo. It looks different, so get over it everyone!
This is so 13yr old it's rediculous. Your right Boostez, it's not "haters", it's people wanting to believe they have the best.
People are afraid of the new and unknown so they shun it. It's retarded and child like. An Evo is an Evo. It looks different, so get over it everyone!
Feb 6, 2008, 05:37 PM
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I think the big question is: does the motor give more gains with similar tunes? In other words, give the car it's AFRs of 11s and give it the timing that it's comfortable with. Do the same on the IX - both bone stock. Then start modding with intake, exhaust, etc.. Will the car - in EVERY scenario - make more power? I stress every scenario because the IX could be more restrictive with some parts than others (and likewise to the X). If I give a well tuned IX an open intake and then tune for that and it yields, say, 10whp.. then do the same thing to the X, will it yield say 20whp?? Everything else being EQUAL?
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Feb 6, 2008, 05:52 PM
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Of course, it is still unknown as to whether an internally stock 4B is capable of "reliably" supporting 500+hp like the 4G can on race gas. But I think that only applies to a few % of the current and future buyers. The vast majority will be happy if they can reliably make 100-125hp over stock, on pump gas.
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Feb 6, 2008, 06:10 PM
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Pardon for my skepticism, but you must understand borrowing another 25k (with a trade-in) and then another 2-3k in mods just to get up to the same level (or 30-40whp more) of performance to a mildly modded VIII/IX is a hard pill to swallow. I need more testing results from other vendors.
Of course, it is still unknown as to whether an internally stock 4B is capable of "reliably" supporting 500+hp like the 4G can on race gas. But I think that only applies to a few % of the current and future buyers. The vast majority will be happy if they can reliably make 100-125hp over stock, on pump gas.
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Feb 6, 2008, 06:15 PM
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That depends.
Pardon for my skepticism, but you must understand borrowing another 25k (with a trade-in) and then another 2-3k in mods just to get up to the same level (or 30-40whp more) of performance to a mildly modded VIII/IX is a hard pill to swallow. I need more testing results from other vendors.
Pardon for my skepticism, but you must understand borrowing another 25k (with a trade-in) and then another 2-3k in mods just to get up to the same level (or 30-40whp more) of performance to a mildly modded VIII/IX is a hard pill to swallow. I need more testing results from other vendors.
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Feb 6, 2008, 06:20 PM
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That depends.
Pardon for my skepticism, but you must understand borrowing another 25k (with a trade-in) and then another 2-3k in mods just to get up to the same level (or 30-40whp more) of performance to a mildly modded VIII/IX is a hard pill to swallow. I need more testing results from other vendors..
Pardon for my skepticism, but you must understand borrowing another 25k (with a trade-in) and then another 2-3k in mods just to get up to the same level (or 30-40whp more) of performance to a mildly modded VIII/IX is a hard pill to swallow. I need more testing results from other vendors..
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Feb 6, 2008, 06:25 PM
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Shiv, I am really impressed with the results so far. Did you ever figure out why the car wasn't pulling timing when knock was detected? It's awesome what you're doing with the car, though, and can't wait to see what the dyno numbers are.
Great job Shiv, post the dyno graphs!
Great job Shiv, post the dyno graphs!
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Feb 6, 2008, 06:28 PM
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It will not reach 400whp on dynojet.
Z1500 wrote on agp's evo x:
¨Update-
We built a more efficient FMIC and a new hot side charge pipe. Changed the cold air intake pipe a little and dyno'd again. 345hp/330tq. I think the turbo is running completely out of air, we were running 24psi now and it's falling to 18.¨
Turbo is running completely out of air so 55whp still missing which is a LOT.
I would say that max is around 350 dynojet whp for Evo x turbo.
Z1500 wrote on agp's evo x:
¨Update-
We built a more efficient FMIC and a new hot side charge pipe. Changed the cold air intake pipe a little and dyno'd again. 345hp/330tq. I think the turbo is running completely out of air, we were running 24psi now and it's falling to 18.¨
Turbo is running completely out of air so 55whp still missing which is a LOT.
I would say that max is around 350 dynojet whp for Evo x turbo.
They don't have engine management yet over at AGP, so don't sell the car too short yet. This is the first Evo X tuning thread. AGP is making all that power with bolt ons. This car is making all this power with minimal bolt ons and tuning.