AMS EVO X to Compete against the best!
Jul 27, 2008, 11:26 AM
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AMS Gopher it!!
Now some recommendations from a nobody but an AMS "family member":
(1) The X must loose some weight. To that end, rip out those air bag and safety system and you will loose ~200 lbs. For this car to be competitive it must get as close to 3k lbs as possible; you have to find another 300lbs to shed.
(2) Have Robi (Robispec.com) do the complete suspension. He is the best and as a minimum needs to be consulted about the set up and parts. No offense to AMS staff but Robi is good, very good.
(3) The car must be reliable. Ever since the SCM started the event, many of the big "contenders" looked good on paper but ultimately never completed because of engine and other failures. Bottom line: be concerned more with reliability and finishing than massive whp output.
(4) Balance: the cars that have won in the past have not won every event. Rather they have been in the top three/ event and wining a few. Keep this formula in mind throughout the build.
(5) Heat: Southern Calif., the site of the event, is hot, hotter than Chicago. Ready this car for maximum heat at the track; many of failures of past contenders was overheating.
In short, assuming there is an 09 GTR entered, I want that big, fat GTR beaten; I almost considered this car instead of the X but Nissan has too much of strangle hold on this car; too elitest for me so I am after the "working man's" car to wipe this GTR out! Do not let us down. Spend the time and expend the effort for AMS is the David here and Nissan is the Golliath for they are going to be involved in the GTR entry. Be prepared for them to come ready to wipe up the field. AMS, I hope and trust, is going to spoil their party.
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Now some recommendations from a nobody but an AMS "family member":
(1) The X must loose some weight. To that end, rip out those air bag and safety system and you will loose ~200 lbs. For this car to be competitive it must get as close to 3k lbs as possible; you have to find another 300lbs to shed.
(2) Have Robi (Robispec.com) do the complete suspension. He is the best and as a minimum needs to be consulted about the set up and parts. No offense to AMS staff but Robi is good, very good.
(3) The car must be reliable. Ever since the SCM started the event, many of the big "contenders" looked good on paper but ultimately never completed because of engine and other failures. Bottom line: be concerned more with reliability and finishing than massive whp output.
(4) Balance: the cars that have won in the past have not won every event. Rather they have been in the top three/ event and wining a few. Keep this formula in mind throughout the build.
(5) Heat: Southern Calif., the site of the event, is hot, hotter than Chicago. Ready this car for maximum heat at the track; many of failures of past contenders was overheating.
In short, assuming there is an 09 GTR entered, I want that big, fat GTR beaten; I almost considered this car instead of the X but Nissan has too much of strangle hold on this car; too elitest for me so I am after the "working man's" car to wipe this GTR out! Do not let us down. Spend the time and expend the effort for AMS is the David here and Nissan is the Golliath for they are going to be involved in the GTR entry. Be prepared for them to come ready to wipe up the field. AMS, I hope and trust, is going to spoil their party.
Later, Ken
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Iveytune (320 all the way around)
2. I think that the last two seasons of Time Attack should say something about the ability of AMS to properly design and setup a suspension for a car. You might be surprised at how much testing we have done on the X suspension. I am pretty sure we have this covered.
3. Reliability is what AMS is all about.
4. We have kept every single event in mind when it came to the build on the car.
5. While the GTR is an awesome performer stock, there is not going to be many things that can be done to the car to improve on it without freaking out the ECU.
We are looking forward to the challenge.
Jul 27, 2008, 01:41 PM
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Awesome header you guys got there. GL @ the USCC!
Jul 27, 2008, 02:23 PM
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Like AMS said, the GTR's main limitation is the factory ecu. Cobb probably has the most developed GTR in the states. They've apparently been able to knock off about 300lbs and add 70whp IIRC. So that's roughly 3500lbs and 475whp. A lightened up Evo X may weigh around 3200-3300 and have similar power, albeit, with a narrower powerband. I'd guess the Evo will beat the GTR in the dragstrip and fuel ecomony, but the road course will be a close one as will the dyno...
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Jul 27, 2008, 03:53 PM
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dude you are so gone, this is a performance competition first and foremost, my point being, for this shootout 99.9% , (you being the .1) dont care about comforts in these cars that they are testing. when you come down off you glue huffing high you will realize that you dont or wont ever own any of these test cars and you can make your own car as fluffy as you like. we all know how to keep a car comfortable on the street...
Jul 27, 2008, 05:40 PM
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dude you are so gone, this is a performance competition first and foremost, my point being, for this shootout 99.9% , (you being the .1) dont care about comforts in these cars that they are testing. when you come down off you glue huffing high you will realize that you dont or wont ever own any of these test cars and you can make your own car as fluffy as you like. we all know how to keep a car comfortable on the street...
Jul 28, 2008, 09:03 AM
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I hope to see the Evo X pull out the win especially if the closest competitor is the new GTR. Nothing would make me happier then to watch the X embarass the GTR. Go go AMS!!!
Jul 28, 2008, 09:20 AM
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