Notices
Evo X Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain Everything from engine builds to the best clutch and flywheel.

Aftermarkit FMIC weights vs stock

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 11, 2009, 02:42 PM
  #31  
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (91)
 
ETS Michael's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 8,685
Received 54 Likes on 43 Posts
Originally Posted by binky
My ETS 3.5" intercooler weighs in at 23.4 LBS





-Bink
Thanks for the post!
Old Mar 11, 2009, 02:45 PM
  #32  
Evolving Member
Thread Starter
 
NoJoy II's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Seattle
Posts: 133
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Well this thread is primarily about FMIC weight. Right now it looks like ARC is in a close lead with the stock. If we could get a list of ALL aftermarket FMIC weights-that would be nice. Now the other info about the performance aspect of other FMICs and whether they are a direct fit is important also. The more info for people to digest the better. Keep it coming.
Old Mar 12, 2009, 01:27 AM
  #33  
EvoM Guru
iTrader: (50)
 
mrfred's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Tri-Cities, WA // Portland, OR
Posts: 9,675
Received 129 Likes on 97 Posts
Originally Posted by Guru
Yeah I would not get a Perrin for that reason alone. I prefer sheet metal. Lighter and looks better with the same flow or better.
Cast end tanks with smooth transitions will always outflow a sheet metal end tank of the same layout that has squared off corners and transitions.
Old Mar 12, 2009, 03:56 AM
  #34  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (31)
 
EvoG8r's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Stavanger
Posts: 1,240
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
My 3" ETS is definitely quite a bit heavier, but was worth at least 25whp. So its a trade off.
Old Mar 12, 2009, 08:52 AM
  #35  
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (91)
 
ETS Michael's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 8,685
Received 54 Likes on 43 Posts
Originally Posted by mrfred
Cast end tanks with smooth transitions will always outflow a sheet metal end tank of the same layout that has squared off corners and transitions.
When you say the same layout do you mean same internal diameter inlet and outlet? Most cast end tanks have a way smaller internal diameter due to the casting.
Old Mar 12, 2009, 09:17 AM
  #36  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (4)
 
LVSBB6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: CAN
Posts: 1,366
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
ARC intercooler: 4.34kg = 9.57lbs

Old Mar 12, 2009, 11:09 AM
  #37  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Hiboost's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 3,222
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
So if the average Aftermarket FMIC is ~25 lbs and the Stock Intercooler checks in at 12 lbs. If horsepower to weight is your main concern (versus braking and handling from the extra weight) then you could rough guess that 100 Lbs requires around 10 HP to overcome.

I would say as long as the heavier aftermarket FMIC's deliver 1-2 HP more than the light weight ARC intercoolers, you would easily account for the 10-20 lbs weight difference. I know for a roadcourse car you want lightest weight possible but not everyone is going to spend the cash for an ARC on their street car when overall it would likely be a lower power to weight ratio combination.
Old Mar 12, 2009, 11:16 AM
  #38  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (4)
 
LVSBB6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: CAN
Posts: 1,366
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
ARC intercooler dyno (+27.5whp):


Last edited by LVSBB6; Mar 12, 2009 at 11:20 AM.
Old Mar 12, 2009, 11:20 AM
  #39  
Evolving Member
Thread Starter
 
NoJoy II's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Seattle
Posts: 133
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Wow 9.6lbs for the ARC! Now I know it's spendy, but that FMIC may be lighter than stock (I have read 12lbs for stock, but not sure if that is the exact weight). Anyone have the stock FMIC weight?
Next ? is, how much more hp is the ARC producing over stock. So far other aftermarket FMIC are doing between 10 and 25whp according to some posts.
So now were gettn down to the nitty gritty. If we factor in price, ARC is near Pluto. But if we say only look at weight vs hp gain ARC may be closer to planet earth.
Old Mar 12, 2009, 11:21 AM
  #40  
Evolving Member
Thread Starter
 
NoJoy II's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Seattle
Posts: 133
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks for the Dyno! Plus 27whp is pretty darn good indeed!
Old Mar 12, 2009, 11:27 AM
  #41  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (4)
 
LVSBB6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: CAN
Posts: 1,366
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Efficiency and lightweight all in one package, and it even reduce water temperature. You GET what you pay for.

Originally Posted by NoJoy II
Thanks for the Dyno! Plus 27whp is pretty darn good indeed!
Old Mar 12, 2009, 11:32 AM
  #42  
Evolving Member
Thread Starter
 
NoJoy II's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Seattle
Posts: 133
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks LVSBB6 for taking the time to post the above info. It is much appreciated!
Old Mar 12, 2009, 11:33 AM
  #43  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (4)
 
LVSBB6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: CAN
Posts: 1,366
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
.....are you sure?

Originally Posted by SilverEvoX
look at the hp gains and drops in temp on the Buschur or AMS as well s the drop in psi across the FMIC and I think you'll find they beat the ARC in every way that matters other than bling factor
Old Mar 12, 2009, 11:36 AM
  #44  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (4)
 
LVSBB6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: CAN
Posts: 1,366
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I should ellaborate abit more. Those with fitment problem are usually 4 inch or thicker. Search thoroughly and you would find the answers.

Overprice or not is personal preference, buy whatever makes you happy.

Originally Posted by shyong
What are you talking about? You act like the ARC fmic is the holy grail of all intercoolers. If your comparing same size intercoolers as ARC, I don't know of many that requires hack job of the bumper for fitment. Please name the ones that need a modification. My 3.5 AGP fits perfect in between the crash beam w/ no modification whatsoever. Personally, the tiny intercooler that ARC makes is overpriced for what you get. It's not that much better than comparable fmic made here in the states. If paying 3 times more for an intercooler is your cup of tea, more power to ya.
Old Mar 12, 2009, 12:39 PM
  #45  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (11)
 
binky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Connecticut / Massachusetts U.S.A
Posts: 1,430
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by ETS Michael
Thanks for the post!
Anytime
New intercooler looks awesome! I'm just finishing up the final touches before I fire her up.


-Bink


Quick Reply: Aftermarkit FMIC weights vs stock



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:19 PM.