Gates311 Review - Carbonetic Triple Carbon clutch / AMS Clutch Master Cylinder Ring
Jun 9, 2009, 12:10 PM
#1
Gates311 Review - Carbonetic Triple Carbon clutch / AMS Clutch Master Cylinder Ring
Hey guys, here's a review of one of the latest mods to my car.
Throughout the 2008 season I ran an Exedy Stage II clutch...I ran 15+ events and made decent power (450+whp) while using it until it BROKE. The clutch shows almost no wear, except for the portions of the disc that broke apart. You can see in the photos below where it's broken. This may be an isolated case, but never the less it was very surprising. It had taking a beating and I guess it was just too much.
Moving on...I now run a Carbonetic Triple Carbon clutch, which is rated at 800 lb/ft Torque and 850 HP at crank. Eric Jones @ AMS did the install and everything worked out great. Along with the clutch, he also installed one of AMS' Clutch Master Cylinder Reinforcement rings. The clutch was converted to a Push-style. I was a little hesitant going to with a Triple-plate clutch because of driveability and reliability of the Clutch Master Cylinder. Being that the Carbonetic is carbon, the clutch is super easy to drive. Taking off from a stop, the clutch feels perfect....it's not difficult, grabby, noisy etc. It was a pleasant surprise. And with the AMS Clutch Master Cylinder Reinforcement ring installed, I'm not worried about the Master Cylinder anymore. Sweet
In a rush before the last Redline T/A Event, I did the recommended break-in procedure and immediately headed to the dyno to run and test a new setup on the car. I was kinda worried, but the clutch held up perfect. Chris did plenty of pulls, back to back, and the Carbonetic Triple took all the power without issue...the car is making somewhere around 500whp/400wtq. No smell of clutch or issues the whole time...on a brand new clutch with only hard dyno miles on it! Nice.
After the tune, we packed up the car and I headed out to CA for the Willow Springs Redline T/A event. Unfortunately, I didn't get many laps on track (see this thread for full story: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/mo...ml#post7152125 ) with the Carbonetic Triple, but the few that I did get it felt perfect. It's very smooth...that's a perfect way to describe how it felt. I'll be out testing the car this weekend at Autobahn with AMS and I'll report back with a bit more info. For now...I'm impressed and very happy with the Carbonetic Triple Carbon clutch and the AMS Master Cylinder Reinforcement ring.
You can visit AMS Performance to buy both of these items, and I'd highly recommend both.
Carbonetic Triple Carbon Clutch
AMS Clutch Master Cylinder Reinforcement Ring
Ryan
Diagram of the Carbonetic Triple Carbon clutch:
AMS Clutch Master Cylinder Reinforcement ring:
Exedy Stage II Clutch Pictures:
Throughout the 2008 season I ran an Exedy Stage II clutch...I ran 15+ events and made decent power (450+whp) while using it until it BROKE. The clutch shows almost no wear, except for the portions of the disc that broke apart. You can see in the photos below where it's broken. This may be an isolated case, but never the less it was very surprising. It had taking a beating and I guess it was just too much.
Moving on...I now run a Carbonetic Triple Carbon clutch, which is rated at 800 lb/ft Torque and 850 HP at crank. Eric Jones @ AMS did the install and everything worked out great. Along with the clutch, he also installed one of AMS' Clutch Master Cylinder Reinforcement rings. The clutch was converted to a Push-style. I was a little hesitant going to with a Triple-plate clutch because of driveability and reliability of the Clutch Master Cylinder. Being that the Carbonetic is carbon, the clutch is super easy to drive. Taking off from a stop, the clutch feels perfect....it's not difficult, grabby, noisy etc. It was a pleasant surprise. And with the AMS Clutch Master Cylinder Reinforcement ring installed, I'm not worried about the Master Cylinder anymore. Sweet
In a rush before the last Redline T/A Event, I did the recommended break-in procedure and immediately headed to the dyno to run and test a new setup on the car. I was kinda worried, but the clutch held up perfect. Chris did plenty of pulls, back to back, and the Carbonetic Triple took all the power without issue...the car is making somewhere around 500whp/400wtq. No smell of clutch or issues the whole time...on a brand new clutch with only hard dyno miles on it! Nice.
After the tune, we packed up the car and I headed out to CA for the Willow Springs Redline T/A event. Unfortunately, I didn't get many laps on track (see this thread for full story: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/mo...ml#post7152125 ) with the Carbonetic Triple, but the few that I did get it felt perfect. It's very smooth...that's a perfect way to describe how it felt. I'll be out testing the car this weekend at Autobahn with AMS and I'll report back with a bit more info. For now...I'm impressed and very happy with the Carbonetic Triple Carbon clutch and the AMS Master Cylinder Reinforcement ring.
You can visit AMS Performance to buy both of these items, and I'd highly recommend both.
Carbonetic Triple Carbon Clutch
AMS Clutch Master Cylinder Reinforcement Ring
Ryan
Diagram of the Carbonetic Triple Carbon clutch:
AMS Clutch Master Cylinder Reinforcement ring:
Exedy Stage II Clutch Pictures:
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Jun 9, 2009, 01:43 PM
#13
Friend has this Exact Same clutch In his 600+WHP Race Evo and Drive ability is real not bad at all. I will say that with his car when its cold its rougher to start in first gear but give it a little bit to warm up and its Great. Grabs great and I DD the Car for a little while on the street and Really like this Clutch. Def my pick for one of the Best clutches out there and I would recommend it to any higher HP Evos out there 
And I LOVE YOUR CAR RYAN 
And I LOVE YOUR CAR RYAN
Jun 9, 2009, 02:13 PM
#14
It really is!
Thanks dude, this clutch is awesome
Friend has this Exact Same clutch In his 600+WHP Race Evo and Drive ability is real not bad at all. I will say that with his car when its cold its rougher to start in first gear but give it a little bit to warm up and its Great. Grabs great and I DD the Car for a little while on the street and Really like this Clutch. Def my pick for one of the Best clutches out there and I would recommend it to any higher HP Evos out there And I LOVE YOUR CAR RYAN
And I LOVE YOUR CAR RYAN
