IMO if something works for an individual I.E mobil 1 or amsoil, why try to find something else?

 

Mmmm... an oil thread. Nothing more exciting!

Anecdotes followed by anecdotes, mostly of "Well, my engine didn't blow up, thus, I continue to use brand X! Yay brand X!"

Myself, Mobil 1. Cause the little label on the car said to use Mobil 1.

Frankly, I'd love to see some long term comparisons against "higher end" motor oils; Castrol, AMSOil, Mobil 1, Valvoline, etc, and see any differences. My guess it'd be damn hard to tell.

For transmissions, it's totally different; going to be switching to AMSOil myself, when I change it.

 

that's not what the little book tells you to use is it?

 

Let me see AMSOIL the first to introduce synthetics in the 70's i would say they would be all over certs specially when they are big in conducting ASTM testing wich is an industry standard. the rest of the synthetic market is still playing catch up with their synthetics.


APPLICATIONS:
AMSOIL Synthetic 10W-30 Motor Oil is recommended for use in gasoline engines and other applications requiring any of the listed worldwide specifications:

API SM/CF, SL, SJ ...
ILSAC GF-4, 3 ...
ACEA A1/B1, A5/B5
JASO VTW
GM 4718M, 6094M
Ford WSS-M2C205-A
Daimler Chrysler MS-6395N
VW 503.00

 

Are you really certain about that statement you have made ????


Are you actually looking at testing that already has been done like NOAK Volatility test, ASTM test, Four Ball Wear Test ASTM D-4172B.

I believe the testing you are asking has already been done for you.

even easier for you, if you look at some oil analysis reports done on different oils you get to appreciate wich oil performs the best, you get to see which additives are the ones mostly important needed in an engine and when you get to see how other manufacturers are putting just the minimum in their oils then you get to see reality



oh and by the way the only reason MOBIL 1 appears on the oil cap of our cars is because MOBIL 1 paid mitsu to have their logo on their so customers would think its the best oil to use, ITS CALLED ADVERTISING

 

5000 mile changes have proven to be too long, if you trust all of the results we compiled in the Oil Dilution thread. I doubt you'll be happy with what you find Being summer may help, though.

 

Yes, thus the testing. To see what this oil can do in these cars. If it indeed seems that the oil has been used up. I can always switch my intervals.

You have to understand, that on turbo/SDS cars in the winter, you have to let the engines warm to operating temperatures before driving them, since the ring gaps will increase with the coldness. I think alot of the fuel dilution can be avoid as long as you let the car warm up for a minute in the summer, and a few minutes in the winter, before driving it.

 

So basicly what you're saying here is Amsoil 5w30 motor oil is NOT API licensed, correct?

 

iam not basically saying nothing, what i did was give you an example of one of our oil weights.

AMSOIL is fully API on all its oils sold to the markets, the only oils that are not API are the racing oil's racing oils meant for off road use.

 

Not to sound contrary, but can you link me to a test of AMSOIL vs. the other "big tier" oil companies that isn't owned and operated by AMSOIL/a dealer?

I found several very similar reviews:

http://bestsyntheticoil.com/
http://www.worldsbestoil.ca/dyno-test.php
http://www.usasyntheticoil.com/synth...comparison.htm

But, my problem is, they're all hosted by an AMSOIL dealer. Suffice it to say, this taints it a bit in my mind.

It's a self fulfilling prophecy, and I realize that: To invest the money and time in an oil test, you'd almost have to have a vested interest in a brand. But since damn near all of the Google hits on "synthetic oil comparison" come up with AMSOIL, well... it turns me off.

So, basically, is their a non-AMSOIL backed study showing differences between modern motor oils, today? Not a study from 2005. But a recent study, showing Castrol vs. Valvoline vs. Mobil 1 vs. Redline vs. AMSOIL etc?

I'm never going to claim an inside knowledge of, well, anything. But I will say I'm quite leery of opening up a 40 page PDF on an oil comparison and seeing an AMSOIL logo splashed on front, and, lo and behold, AMSOIL winning.

As for Mobil 1 advertising with Mitsubishi, of course. I would never claim otherwise.

 

+1, I wouldn't mind some non-partisan party tests either. I kind of have a history with Amsoil even though I have never used it before.

I've raced motocross for a long time, and send off resumes yearly. (About to do it again).

When I applied to Amsoil, they sent me a bunch of stuff for free. A bunch of stuff to make me a dealer. I thought it was really weird to be honest. I've never had anyone do that to me. It makes me curious how many other people they have done that to as well. I wonder how many of them are on these forums pushing Amsoil's product because they make a little money and get better discounts on their oil.

Either way, I'd still like to know more about Amsoil tests to see how they truly perform. I've read good things on these forums as far as transmission fluid, but I don't think any REAL tests and analysis have been performed.

 

That's one of the reasons I've never tried it. It rubs me as the Amway of the oil industry and migs647's experience shows why, and is not unusual. They may or may not have great oil, I don't know, but their sales tactics make them suspect, IMO. It seems to routinely perform well on BITOG, but so do Redline, Mobil 1, and Penzoil Platinum.

 

You are making no sense man

if you want to be an AMSOIL rep to make money there are oportunities, there are many people who the have sent free stuff to make them dealers and now those people are able to pay their evos and all the mods they have on their cars with their small AMSOIL business.

speak for yoursefl man

 

What am I making no sense about???? How much clearer could I have been about the events that unfolded? I was just pointing out that out of all the sponsors I have, I've never had that experience, it rubbed me the wrong way.

 

I dont know of any testing done by outsiders, i dont think anyone would drop a couple grand without having an interest in making money.

Let me see what a coinsidence that AMSOIL is one of the only oil companies that will throw ASTM testing, NOAK volatility and many other testing out to the public, other companies like Red Line, RP and many others dont even give you that data to help you in your research when you are in the market to purchase a product.