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Old Jan 20, 2012, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by cursedsm
No it holds 33 all the way past 7k.
sorry i was speaking as if you had a 10
Old Jan 20, 2012, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by murlo26
Notice the cliff after 6900

All I meant by notice the section you were in is that the 8/9 stock frame world is vastly different than the X.
Yeah that does suck. I guess that is another reason I wont get rid of my 8 hahaha. But still for a road race application a larger turbo with a smaller a/r I still think isn't the better option. Although something like a 3076r which I have on my talon with a .63 a/r still would be to laggy I would think. I mean sure the turbo hits hard but point of the road race is being able to get on the throttle in the apex of the turn and keeping the momentium going. With a larger turbo I am sure it can be done, but not my first choice even with an x. I would want something that would spool up fast and keep the momentium going rather then have that little bit of hesitation.
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Originally Posted by tanksmith
sorry i was speaking as if you had a 10
Hahaha no it is cool and please don't think I am tring to badger anyone here. after seeing the last post with the dyno graph honestly I knew the x turbo was a little different, but I didn't really know they had that much drop off from the 8 and 9. I guess I was thinking if all were equil ya know.
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Originally Posted by cursedsm
Hahaha no it is cool and please don't think I am tring to badger anyone here. after seeing the last post with the dyno graph honestly I knew the x turbo was a little different, but I didn't really know they had that much drop off from the 8 and 9. I guess I was thinking if all were equil ya know.
True we can't hold as much boost, but dual mivec, better flowing head equals this for spool up



That is me vs. a very similarly built evo8 fpblack. He had s3 cams. But still held more boost/flatter boost out to redline. He was on an MBC too so if he switched to ECU controlled boost like the GM 3 port or something I bet he could hold even more.
Old Jan 20, 2012, 02:14 PM
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so with the help from all of you guyz i spoke back with my shop and the 6266 should be here within the next 2 to 3 weeks . when i get the motor back and turbo i will be posting pics thanx again
Old Jan 25, 2012, 03:58 PM
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just got the motor
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Old Jan 26, 2012, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ETS Michael
Hands down a 6266. We have been doing a lot of testing with this turbo. If it's a street car.... this turbo is a beast.

On a 2.0L we put down 730whp at 35psi. We made 27psi by 4500rpms using a .82 a/r v-band turbine housing. Torque is great. It's a perfect street turbo in my eyes.

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can you post this chart ?
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Just to give you guys an idea, I tuned a stock block X on 93 at 508whp w/ FP Black very very conservative. I think a full build on tilt I would like to hit 650whp safely. There are a lot of things you can do to make power that a lot of people over look. One, is compression, which more times than not, seems to be over looked by a lot of people... The whole not being able to running high compression on a turbo car days are over! No reason in the world to do a 9.5:1 unless you are on 91 oct. 10:1 or 10.5:1 is what should be used. Every full point of compression is about 4% more power. So on my car, compared to a stock compression build, my increased compression is giving me an extra 52whp ish. Compression can make a lot more power and doesn't stress the turbo as much. Just some food for thought. My motor is around 10.8:1. It runs on 93 and with practicaly no * and only 19psi it still makes mid 500s. Who is to say you can't run a race car on pump? Tuning makes the world of difference as I'm sure most of you know.

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is this on a X or 8/9? which turbo?
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That was regarding my car EVO IX. LR2.4 w/ FP Black

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do you see any issues with running a 10:1 on a X?
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No sir, your bore is larger which helps with knock suppression and your head flows better. I would do some bowl work in the head while the head is off though. Bowl work is a huge gain in power and knock suppression that a lot of people don't exploit to their advantage.

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Originally Posted by murlo26
True we can't hold as much boost, but dual mivec, better flowing head equals this for spool up



That is me vs. a very similarly built evo8 fpblack. He had s3 cams. But still held more boost/flatter boost out to redline. He was on an MBC too so if he switched to ECU controlled boost like the GM 3 port or something I bet he could hold even more.
Yeah thats pretty nice, but the s3 cams are hurting the other car for sure. I have seen them spool way eariler then that with an 8. Hell my car spools faster then that being I run an ef4. But yeah thats pretty awsome.
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Originally Posted by Mikey@Spec-Ops
No sir, your bore is larger which helps with knock suppression and your head flows better. I would do some bowl work in the head while the head is off though. Bowl work is a huge gain in power and knock suppression that a lot of people don't exploit to their advantage.

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What is bowl work?
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Originally Posted by slonez
What is bowl work?
It is work done to the head around the valves that whole bowl area that can be reblended to make sure transistion is smoother and air flows smoothly in and out of the motor. I can make great hp #s if done properly.
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got the turbo
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the car is almost done i was waitting for a twin disc and ended up with a quartermaster prototype http://i1034.photobucket.com/albums/...x/IMG_4556.jpg http://i1034.photobucket.com/albums/...1062450143.jpg


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