Mobil 1 0w-40
#16
The only question that I would have before changing viscosity is whether this might increase the chances of stretching the timing chain and whether an oil that isn't what the owner's manual calls for would decrease the chance of the timing chain being fixed under warranty.
Jeff
#19
For purposes of a Stock Evo under warranty using a 5w20 would void your warranty. Now if your car is modified then who cares right? you can use what you want? Using a 5/20 in an Evo can be done with the new 4B11T but that oil is more for MPG's than for Durability though you have used it with success. For me? I am not going to try that. Where I live, the temps are just too high for a 20w oil in the summer.
Oil though is all a matter of choice, but those that choose to stay stock and keep our warranties are more limited to what we can use.
I am considering the M1 0w40 though which is recommended for use in Canada per Though the 0w is not what I am looking for, the 40w may be more suitable for occasional track use and DD duties while still being ok with for warranty purposes.
Its all trial and error on oil. Just how much you are willing to "try" at your engines expense is up to each person.
Jeff
Oil though is all a matter of choice, but those that choose to stay stock and keep our warranties are more limited to what we can use.
I am considering the M1 0w40 though which is recommended for use in Canada per Though the 0w is not what I am looking for, the 40w may be more suitable for occasional track use and DD duties while still being ok with for warranty purposes.
Its all trial and error on oil. Just how much you are willing to "try" at your engines expense is up to each person.
Jeff
#21
An Amsoil Dealer giviing the on an oil that doesnt approve of? mmmmm.
a 20w carries too low of a HTHS IMO for the Evo. Even the 4B11T. Sure you can run it, but the 20w oils are Energy Conserving and would be great if you were just putting around town. You have used it for 25K with success and that is great, but I think your pushing your luck personally. If your car is at all Modified and tuned to make more power than stock I would really re consider your oil weight choice.
Maybe after 100K miles and an engine tear down to do a comparo would prove me wrong on this one. The thing is, we will never see that now will we?
Amsoil Reps should be pushing what is recommended. ESPECIALLY if the car is under factory warranty. Not what happens to work IMO. In cars like the Evo going up a grade will never hurt nothing. Going down a grade is a crap shoot. Maybe for a N/A motor, but not a Turbo Charged Car. But who am I?? haha.
Jeff
a 20w carries too low of a HTHS IMO for the Evo. Even the 4B11T. Sure you can run it, but the 20w oils are Energy Conserving and would be great if you were just putting around town. You have used it for 25K with success and that is great, but I think your pushing your luck personally. If your car is at all Modified and tuned to make more power than stock I would really re consider your oil weight choice.
Maybe after 100K miles and an engine tear down to do a comparo would prove me wrong on this one. The thing is, we will never see that now will we?
Amsoil Reps should be pushing what is recommended. ESPECIALLY if the car is under factory warranty. Not what happens to work IMO. In cars like the Evo going up a grade will never hurt nothing. Going down a grade is a crap shoot. Maybe for a N/A motor, but not a Turbo Charged Car. But who am I?? haha.
Jeff
#23
Old thread from the dead
I haven't ran anything but AMSoil. I've been between 5w20, 5w30, 10w30. I've recently been tearing the car down for a lot of maintenance lately. Decided to check the timing chain for stretch since so many have had a problem. Pulled the valve cover and it's great. Not even close the the "right side of the indicator" when visually inspecting. I think this speaks highly of AMSoil and maybe my meticulous maintenance like changing my oil every 2k miles . 2008 year model car is still strong at 60k now.
I haven't ran anything but AMSoil. I've been between 5w20, 5w30, 10w30. I've recently been tearing the car down for a lot of maintenance lately. Decided to check the timing chain for stretch since so many have had a problem. Pulled the valve cover and it's great. Not even close the the "right side of the indicator" when visually inspecting. I think this speaks highly of AMSoil and maybe my meticulous maintenance like changing my oil every 2k miles . 2008 year model car is still strong at 60k now.
#24
Old thread from the dead
I haven't ran anything but AMSoil. I've been between 5w20, 5w30, 10w30. I've recently been tearing the car down for a lot of maintenance lately. Decided to check the timing chain for stretch since so many have had a problem. Pulled the valve cover and it's great. Not even close the the "right side of the indicator" when visually inspecting. I think this speaks highly of AMSoil and maybe my meticulous maintenance like changing my oil every 2k miles . 2008 year model car is still strong at 60k now.
I haven't ran anything but AMSoil. I've been between 5w20, 5w30, 10w30. I've recently been tearing the car down for a lot of maintenance lately. Decided to check the timing chain for stretch since so many have had a problem. Pulled the valve cover and it's great. Not even close the the "right side of the indicator" when visually inspecting. I think this speaks highly of AMSoil and maybe my meticulous maintenance like changing my oil every 2k miles . 2008 year model car is still strong at 60k now.
#26
I run 0W40 M1 in everything I own. 70K miles in my 2011 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited, 33K miles in my 2011 LR4, 39K miles in my 135i, and 2K miles so far in my 2014 Evo MR. By far it is a fantastic oil. All of my oil analyses that I have sent off have come back flawless, and with plenty of life left over the recommended change intervals.
#27
Seen the same with 20 other oil brands Synthetic and Non give us a damn break already.
Sickening
#28
Here is a snapshot of my old 04 cobra iron block after running 0W40 though it. I ended up rebuilding with an aluminum block. As you can see, even with running 600+ hp, the cylinder walls are like glass.
#29
Sure look clean,,, were some of the cross hatch marks still there from the honing ?
Wondering how did the bearings look like, main and rods ?
Wondering how did the bearings look like, main and rods ?
#30
Everything still looked great. The cross hatching was from the factory honing. The piston rings never came in contact with those areas, so the honing was never scuffed. If I wasn't upgrading everything for maximum power, I could have reused the bearings. The crank journals didn't even need resurfacing, other than just what was needed to set it up for the new bearings..