It's slower than the IX AND
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^^ Robevo I think you misunderstood the point of this thread, which is people are saying the X is slower than the IX, and leaving out the VIII. My post was to illustrate that that may not really be the case, especially for those of us with the original VIII offerings.
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Yes, it may have all the bells and whistles, but that just makes the even worse. The X has more bhp, more torque, MIVEC (intake/exhaust), special tranny, upgraded suspension, lightweight engine block, higher compression, etc.. and still can only muster a 13.8/14.0??
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while complying with increasingly stricter emmision and safety requirement, not to mention trying to please the hardcore purists, adding all of the ammenities and improving quality based on many complaints, and broadening the appeal so they can actually stay in business so that and XI and XII can be around someday, did i forget something?
Oh yes, (don't mean to sound like a broken record) but who gives a shijajt about 0-60 and quarter mile times, will that extra 0.2-0.4 seconds save your life or win you a $1million purse in a race? NOT. Thats why profession of tuning came into being, if cars could not be improved upon or tweaked to better performance, we wouldn't be here discussing things and if so, the most exciting thread going would be titled "who else has these cool leapard seat covers?"
This darn thing isn't even out yet (how can anyone be disappointed in something that isnt even available yet), come on mang, chill, sit back and enjoy the ride, lets talk about the X in June when its out and we know how tunable this car really is,
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I had to edit, it seems like so many people just don't listen or read or think, just throwing around their opinions like, "this thing is slow, its ugly, i am disappointed, i will never but another evo, etc." Please stop crying
Oh yes, (don't mean to sound like a broken record) but who gives a shijajt about 0-60 and quarter mile times, will that extra 0.2-0.4 seconds save your life or win you a $1million purse in a race? NOT. Thats why profession of tuning came into being, if cars could not be improved upon or tweaked to better performance, we wouldn't be here discussing things and if so, the most exciting thread going would be titled "who else has these cool leapard seat covers?"
This darn thing isn't even out yet (how can anyone be disappointed in something that isnt even available yet), come on mang, chill, sit back and enjoy the ride, lets talk about the X in June when its out and we know how tunable this car really is,
PEACE
I had to edit, it seems like so many people just don't listen or read or think, just throwing around their opinions like, "this thing is slow, its ugly, i am disappointed, i will never but another evo, etc." Please stop crying
While I see your point with data from 1 magazine, in practice I think the X is a letdown.
Yes, it may have all the bells and whistles, but that just makes the even worse. The X has more bhp, more torque, MIVEC (intake/exhaust), special tranny, upgraded suspension, lightweight engine block, higher compression, etc.. and still can only muster a 13.8/14.0??
-M
Yes, it may have all the bells and whistles, but that just makes the even worse. The X has more bhp, more torque, MIVEC (intake/exhaust), special tranny, upgraded suspension, lightweight engine block, higher compression, etc.. and still can only muster a 13.8/14.0??
-M
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I am pretty disappointed with the X but I gotta admit that they did do a decent job with a brand new platform and engine. To take a different platform and new engine and get that close of performance to something that took at least 10 years to get is pretty darn good to me. I have this feeling has something else up their sleeves to cater towards the enthusiasts. I say they should just call this the Galant VR4 like it should be and move over and use the colt platform to underpin a new EVO model; something light and powerful. I believe the latest colt uses an aluminum space frame and it seems the concept RA may be built off a similar if not the same platform with the EVO X AWD technology. I don't know, it's just wishful thinking, but with them announcing the concept RA, at least they are considering something like this, and that is my small glimmer of hope for mitsubishi though it be so very small.....
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Yeah, but I bet you could build something pretty good off that platform. That's what I meant by that. In one of the time attacks back when the colt ralliart came out, it was one of the quicker cars.
Here's one article:
http://http://www.thegarage.com.au/n..._from=&ucat=3&
And another one...........this event they even beat an EVO VIII. Now just imagine with a different body style with lower center of gravity and the EVO engine, they would have a winner. BTW is considering using this car for WRC in the future since the Lancer has grown big enough to be called a Galant in Japan.
http://www.caradvice.com.au/873/mits...-tarmac-rally/
This car would probably never reach the states though.
Here's one article:
http://http://www.thegarage.com.au/n..._from=&ucat=3&
And another one...........this event they even beat an EVO VIII. Now just imagine with a different body style with lower center of gravity and the EVO engine, they would have a winner. BTW is considering using this car for WRC in the future since the Lancer has grown big enough to be called a Galant in Japan.
http://www.caradvice.com.au/873/mits...-tarmac-rally/
This car would probably never reach the states though.
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While I see your point with data from 1 magazine, in practice I think the X is a letdown.
Yes, it may have all the bells and whistles, but that just makes the even worse. The X has more bhp, more torque, MIVEC (intake/exhaust), special tranny, upgraded suspension, lightweight engine block, higher compression, etc.. and still can only muster a 13.8/14.0??
-M
Yes, it may have all the bells and whistles, but that just makes the even worse. The X has more bhp, more torque, MIVEC (intake/exhaust), special tranny, upgraded suspension, lightweight engine block, higher compression, etc.. and still can only muster a 13.8/14.0??
-M
2. More bells and whistles are what a lot of people want and they delivered. I mean, I would at least like to spec out my $30K+ car with things available on a Camry...if I want...but that's not really what made it porky. It was the new chassis and safety equipment.
3. This is a brand new car, with a brand new engine, dealing with brand new safety and emissions laws. As such, in stock form, it's down on power in the power-to-weight side of the equation from the CT9A chassis at its pinnacle of development. They could have gone the way of Subaru and lopped off the trunk to save weight, but I'm REALLY glad they didn't. I'm sure power output will change as the car matures into the XI and XII. When I first took my VIII to the drag strip, I ran between 13.8 and 14.0. With some bolt-ons and a tune, it ran really low 13's, and that's as quick as I need any car to be. So long as people like me can get a X, bolt some things on to make some decent (not INSANE, just DECENT) power, I think it will still be a winner in most people's eyes, despite its newfound heft, and highting its newfound ammenities and sophisticated AWD system. After all, it's a rally car, which is ALL ABOUT sophisticated AWD systems!
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