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Dec 29, 2007 | 06:01 PM

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Now you guys just resorted to flaming. Come on guys. I was having a technical discussion about the respective and called on fanboyish claims. Honestly, I understand that 3000 does have the knowledge and respect for well designed motors and I applaud him for that.

Robevo, I never once bashed on the Evo. I love my Evo and love the fact I have MIVEC as well. I've been civil with you throughout this thread yet you hold on to the thought I'm trying to convince people the 4G63T is a huge pile of crap and isn't worth modding; that was never and will never be the case. I'll be pushing the absolute limits of my motor on a stock block with a GT35R and will have rods, pistons, and all the other goodies to rebuild if heaven forbid there is a catastrophic failure.

Why can't we just all get along? I give my dues to well engineered motors, never blindly following the manufacturer. I love Daimler motors, BMW motors, the Mitsu/Chrysler 4G63, Honda B, F, and K motors, etc. The fact that engineers out there are constantly pushing the envelope and creating reciprocating masterpieces puts a genuine smile on my face.

Cheers.

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Dec 31, 2007 | 04:48 AM

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Honda just has a stigma associated to its cars because of the amount of idiotic fanboys out there. People that genuinely believe an intake, header, and exhaust will net them 50+ whp and if you point out their faults, they yell "but I could just slap on a 100 shot of nawzzzzz and smoke the **** out of your evo!"

... no, honda's r&d and innovation far exceeds what Mitsubishi motors have provided.. their end products are proof of this

From fuel efficient compact models Civic's R18 vs Lancers 4B11 (not to mention this engine was created in collaboration with hyundai and chrysler)

To midsize-larde sedans Accords J35Z vs Galant's..... whatever 3.8L 6cly in it

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Dec 31, 2007 | 06:24 AM

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The bad name came to the honda ,because of they owners... Not because they make bad cars. Period.
If the ricer name come up ,almost everybody picture the same car "the honda". And there is the reason for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko3oj...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLrRv...eature=related

this is bad.

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Dec 31, 2007 | 12:36 PM

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Mitsu wanted to avoide getting the ricer name and in the process destroyed their brand in america... Yeh honda is know for ricers but they are also highly respected everywhere and sell many many more cars than mitsu who now sells less than hyundai and KIA...

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Dec 31, 2007 | 01:19 PM

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First part ,i dont really know what you mean. second part, any back up on that?
its amazing how many non evo owners come to this site to talk about how bad the mitshu doing...
A mean while next to my town the subaru dealer ship is closing and Mitsubishi dealer opening the same place... How ironic is that?

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Dec 31, 2007 | 03:17 PM

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Mitsu isnt doing bad this year. Sales for the year are up about 13% - that is actually very good. This is in comparison to Kia +6.5%, Hyundai +12%.

Totals however, Mitsu is very low on the ladder...
Mitsu - 123,089 ytd
Kia - 281045 ytd
Hyundai - 420,522 ytd

Couldn't find Subaru, but looks like all of their sales were up between 7-9% across their product line for November and they outsold Mitsu twice the amount in November 14000 to 7000.

It can all be found at www.autospectator.com

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Dec 31, 2007 | 03:33 PM

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Are you a fanboi? Numbers don't lie. Mitsu sucks in sales no matter what the increase. I can say that honda is close to the top for ricers, but if the evo was cheaper it would be to. Besides I see alot of ricers on this site and around town, you just have to understand that there are far less evo's on the street than there are civic's and integra's. All i can say is watch out for the tsx type s. If its true it will be 260 hp turbo sh-awd which is the same as mitsu's ayc and more soccer mom's and other people would look at the tsx-s before they get into a mitsu

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/03/s...009-acura-tsx/

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Dec 31, 2007 | 03:36 PM

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Honda sells more cars in one month than mitsu sell's all year

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Dec 31, 2007 | 04:14 PM

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Honda sells more cars in one month than mitsu sell's all year

that is funny

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Jan 1, 2008 | 04:50 AM

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you must be delusional if you think Mitsubishi is doing good compared to Subaru. Not to mention every line up Subaru is offering is experiencing a 5%(impreza)-18%(Tribeca, not surprising, the previous year looked like ***) increase from last year

Even your personal experience on the road should confirm this. Im not talking about seeing as much evo's you see compared to sti's

Lancer vs Impreza
Lancer Sport back vs Impreza wagon/outback
Outlander vs Forester/Tribeca?
Galant vs Legacy

This is where the money is comming from, Enthusiast cars(such as evo/sti fills merely 2% of the total market if not less)

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Jan 1, 2008 | 07:39 AM

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oh wait, did i say the mitshu selling more unit somewhere? If i do then i tryed to say ,
qoute:
"Yeh honda is know for ricers but they are also highly respected everywhere and sell many many more cars than mitsu who now sells less than hyundai and KIA..."
My answere:
The mitsubishi doing good. And do you have any back up for that, it is not doing good anymore?Because you say sold more and now selling less....
For my understanding is from this line , the mitsubishi going under... or i miss understanood?
i think is not that bad:
http://www.autospectator.com/cars/mi...h-october-2007
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...03/042360.html

and this is the line what i do not understand at all...

"Mitsu wanted to avoide getting the ricer name and in the process destroyed their brand in america... "

so pls help me out on both.

Also is many example out there ,to selling more unit is not equal more profit...

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Jan 1, 2008 | 07:54 AM

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besides the point, guys you bragging about , KIA -Hyundai- Honda etc...
then what are you doing in the evo, if the mitshu is that bad??? Why you guys not ripping the road in the civic or tiburon if that much better the company?Specially if matters that much for you how the company does itself?
I'm a fanboi? Yes you can bet! I'm proud to have one of the most unique car /besides the sti/ on us roads. I'm an EVO guy.You dont like it? fine.
But it is akward if somebody dont even have it ,and he or she in this forum talking about how bad the mitshu is....
First of all who cares ? I will never buy outlander or regular lancer from mitshu. I only interested about the Evo.
And you guys like it or not the X will be a sucsess just like any evo before. Why? because the Evo line is very very good engeneered car line. And it works!
Besides ,remember this is an Evo forum...

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Jan 1, 2008 | 08:27 AM

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Jan 1, 2008 | 07:21 PM

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wtf it's about X vs new STi...please try to stay on track.

i personally wouldn't take either cars because they're both too heavy for my taste. i'll stick with my gc8

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Jan 1, 2008 | 07:25 PM

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Well, in response of the first 2-3 sentences. I was going say What attracted you to Mistubishi, the evo did, the car for enthusiasts. Appreciation for one car does not mean you have to be a fanboy for Mitsubishi as a whole

But then again, it seems you realized that in the bottom part of the post

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