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Old Jan 26, 2008, 09:01 PM
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Nice numbers, its great to see some positive press for these things.
Old Jan 26, 2008, 09:29 PM
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evo X faster than the overated 305hp STi in the 1/4 mile

BIG WIN for the X
Old Jan 26, 2008, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by WICKed'N'EVO
evo X faster than the overated 305hp STi in the 1/4 mile

BIG WIN for the X

I think it is 2 for 2 now. Two mags have the STI faster in the 1/4 and 0-60 and two other mags have the Evo X faster in the 1/4 and 0-60. But believe what ever makes you happy.
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Originally Posted by Fiend
I think it is 2 for 2 now. Two mags have the STI faster in the 1/4 and 0-60 and two other mags have the Evo X faster in the 1/4 and 0-60. But believe what ever makes you happy.
wow 2 for 2 not bad.... I wa thinking evo 1 and sti like 3 something.
a win is a win
Old Jan 26, 2008, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by WICKed'N'EVO
a win is a win
It is if the only racing you do is via magazines .
Old Jan 26, 2008, 09:59 PM
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boostez, the video you are referring to was best motoring, unless jeremy clarkson quit top gear and they hired a bunch of japanese guys. And also, the car that was run in that test was a preproduction model with the ecu not finalized and the kinks worked out, just like motor trend got when they put out the slow 1/4 mile times. The x launches harder than the 9 because of the better torque down low and beefier clutch/tranny. This is why the 0-60 and 1/4 mile times are on par. The 9 would probably be noticeably faster from a roll because of the weight difference, but the x beats the 9 in all other categories. Read road and tracks most recent review of the car, edmunds, now car and driver, soon motor trend; the car is almost as fast as the 9 now that the ecu is finalized and the car is running properly. It's the better car, and it should be... it has improved on an already incredible car. Admit it and move on.
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Impressive, just as fast as the IX and its heavier.
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Nice numbers...the urge to step up from IX to X is growing inside.
Old Jan 27, 2008, 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by mitsracer
The 4B11 motor is sold as a blank slate. It is a detuned motor with a lot of potential. With only a little tuning my dealership has produced a GSR with 387hp. I will post pictures and other info in the weeks to come.
We'll be looking out for this.
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Originally Posted by mitsracer
The 4B11 motor is sold as a blank slate. It is a detuned motor with a lot of potential. With only a little tuning my dealership has produced a GSR with 387hp. I will post pictures and other info in the weeks to come.

Do tell! Dealership? What dealership is into tuning Evo's?
Old Jan 27, 2008, 07:18 AM
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C&D bumped the hp figures up 4 for the X. Maybe the numbers have been revised by since they fixed their upper rpm hesitation issues. Good numbers. Cant wait to see real owner tests at the strip and track.
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Originally Posted by BOOSTEZ
I fail to believe that a car that makes the same stock whp as the IX can make the same quarter-mile times but be over 300lbs heavier.

I'll trust the actual video of the IX stomping the X on the track in Top Gear until I see some US numbers from average people.

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Nothing is wrong with this test, all tests will vary, and this is probably one of the quickest times you will see out of a EVO X. Don't have a nervous break down BOOSTEZ, I still believe the EVO IX is a good three or four tenths quicker than a EVO X in the 1/4 mile. The record stock 1/4 mile time for a EVO IX is 12.8@106 or 107mph, I highly doubt a EVO X will ever come close to matching that. If I were to make a guess, 13.1 or 13.2 will be the record for a EVO X. So yes the EVO IX is a quicker and faster car, but this is for all the freakin' haters, the EVO X is no slouch either.
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Originally Posted by Fiend
I think it is 2 for 2 now. Two mags have the STI faster in the 1/4 and 0-60 and two other mags have the Evo X faster in the 1/4 and 0-60. But believe what ever makes you happy.
Regardless of who was faster or not, the most important point is that all four mags or comparisons had the EVO X rated overall higher than the STI. Not everybody lives life a 1/4 mile at time dude. Even in JDM models, the EVO is winning comparisons against the Subaru rival (http://www.speedtv.com/articles/auto.../42699/?page=1). Seriously Subaru engineers really have to start thinking about why since 2003 do magazines and comparison tests keep picking the EVO like 90% of the time over the STI/STi.

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It baffles me that so many of you only reference the peak HP numbers. When do you actually get to use the peak HP? at 7000rpm? How much of the time, while getting to your 1/4 mile, are you at 7000rpm using the peak HP?

I think the new engine/tuning is quite impressive myself. Yes, like everyone, I was hoping/dreaming of ~320, but if you think about lugging ~300Lbs more, with only ~5hp more over the IX and being just a fraction slower is still impressive. If you added 300Lbs penalty to the IX, would it beat the X or STI?

Anyway, my point is that the new engine, although having lower peak numbers than everyone expected, is still quite impressive. I think it has to do with the area under the curve that no one is comparing.... I think the new engine has more overall umph in a much broader rpm range and that is how it is able to lug the extra 300 lbs around and still be competitive with the STI
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Originally Posted by tsitalon1
Could it be that the motor is even more underated than the IX and Mitsu finally worked out the bugs??
No. The car is in Japan and Best Motoring already proved it was slower than the IX.


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