How to shave 70 lbs in 7 minutes on an SSS EVO X... Pics inside....
Feb 27, 2008, 01:33 PM
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As an AutoXer that competes on the national scale, I'm 100% hung up, fixated, whatever you want to call it on that weight. I'd argue that extra weight is going to hurt more in AutoX then drag racing, because you have to overcome it in every direction, not just forward. 18 year old STS Civics aren't giving me a run for my money because they have active yaw or gobs of horse power. It's all because of their weight.
Feb 27, 2008, 01:42 PM
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Yes the VIII and IX have understeer issues, just like any other AWD car (in stock form) And every review has touched on this topic in one form or another. This is really old news though, kthx.
I will be driving the X around the track this weekend for about 3 hours, so Ill have a better idea of how much the weight impacts the car there, or if the new handling systems make up for the weight deficit. Our Auto-X stuff doesn't start up until April, but I know when I removed a little over 100 pounds out of my VIII, it didnt equate to quicker times on the shorter Auto-X course, but it did net me about 2/5 of a second for the 1.98 mile PIR track. Unfortunately, the track is brand new this year, so I wont have a fair comparison, but I fortunately know several other Evo VIII drivers that will be out there for the comparison
I will be driving the X around the track this weekend for about 3 hours, so Ill have a better idea of how much the weight impacts the car there, or if the new handling systems make up for the weight deficit. Our Auto-X stuff doesn't start up until April, but I know when I removed a little over 100 pounds out of my VIII, it didnt equate to quicker times on the shorter Auto-X course, but it did net me about 2/5 of a second for the 1.98 mile PIR track. Unfortunately, the track is brand new this year, so I wont have a fair comparison, but I fortunately know several other Evo VIII drivers that will be out there for the comparison
Feb 27, 2008, 02:24 PM
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Feb 27, 2008, 02:28 PM
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Ok, I'll concede to that, I should have instead focused on the reduction in understeer with the X. Does that sound better? I wasn't stating this as a dig towards my favorite car. If I didn't like the VIII, I wouldn't be looking for a used one right now to build into a rally car.
Auto-X is definitely a place where the slalom is used heavily, so it will be interesting to see if weight reduction helps this adjustment, or if there is a driving strategy for it. You should be able to come out of the turns quicker now on the X.
Steve, what is your end goal with the weight reduction? Are you hoping to resolve a problem, or just make 1/4 times faster, or something else entirely?
Auto-X is definitely a place where the slalom is used heavily, so it will be interesting to see if weight reduction helps this adjustment, or if there is a driving strategy for it. You should be able to come out of the turns quicker now on the X.
Steve, what is your end goal with the weight reduction? Are you hoping to resolve a problem, or just make 1/4 times faster, or something else entirely?
Feb 27, 2008, 04:39 PM
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Why do VIII/IX owners still debate on the X being a much better handling car? Read the reviews of chronohunter (driver of the fastest evo time attack car in the country) and robi (suspension engineer). If there largely positive reviews don't make you a believer I don't know what will. The tire arguement is stupid, its a better handling car and its not all because of the 10mm wider tires like everyone makes it out to be.
As for the AYC lagginess in slalom and autox type situations, robi noted that the AYC has a much easier time once he put his entire suspension package on the thing. Fact of the matter is its AT LEAST as good as a IX in slalom with an extra 300lbs. I think that says a lot.
As for the AYC lagginess in slalom and autox type situations, robi noted that the AYC has a much easier time once he put his entire suspension package on the thing. Fact of the matter is its AT LEAST as good as a IX in slalom with an extra 300lbs. I think that says a lot.
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Feb 27, 2008, 06:08 PM
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Wow glad I waisted my time reading through all 6 pages of this..... 1 to 2 pages of info and 4 pages of nonsense lol
Thanks Steve for the info provided anyways.....
Thanks Steve for the info provided anyways.....
