Evo X vs. modern BMW cars (All X General threads merged)
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I wouldn't doubt that. I agree. The 3mph trap speed is an advantage. I am not surprised though that the 135i pulls a bit better of a roll though...I mean we all know that this isn't the EVOs territory out of the box don't we? We dyno less with the AWD. The launch is a necessary factor in determining a cars performance in my opinion though. BMW took the inline 6 with twin turbos and stuck it into a smaller body like the 135i...I would be more surprised if it wasn't quick. I almost purchased the 335i myself...was planning the Vishnu Procede it. I think personally the EVO has more potential but than again I might have watched to many SRvidz with the AMS black EVO raping everything
To me, the biggest advantage to the Evo for building a true track car is the aftermarket support...which you've mentioned before. Much more support and many more options that can span all budget levels. You can make one hell of a track machine out of the Evo X (or any Evo VIII/IX for that matter). But, I also think the 135 has some great track potential as well. Hopefully we'll see some real-world times at local tracks for both cars once tracks open around the country.
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Went today and drove the 135i again and spent a lot more time with it.
I don't think its as nice of a car as the 335i on the interior, that's for sure. I also don't think it handles nearly as well as my car.
The power difference is pretty hard to overcome, though.
Still, after thought, I am not going to be getting one or getting one for the wife. I think the X is really hard to beat for the price, especially considering you can get one for invoice.
I like my car, but they good grief it needs a tuning tool.
Everyone at the BMW dealership today thought it was a really nice car.
I don't think its as nice of a car as the 335i on the interior, that's for sure. I also don't think it handles nearly as well as my car.
The power difference is pretty hard to overcome, though.
Still, after thought, I am not going to be getting one or getting one for the wife. I think the X is really hard to beat for the price, especially considering you can get one for invoice.
I like my car, but they good grief it needs a tuning tool.
Everyone at the BMW dealership today thought it was a really nice car.
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That AMS Evo is a legend and rightfully so What a freaking beast But that's a dragstrip legend. I think Noize was referring to the 135's potential on a roadcourse. Where is does have potential with the right set up. Heck, even on the dragstrip is has potential with the right set of tires so you can actually hook up at launch.
To me, the biggest advantage to the Evo for building a true track car is the aftermarket support...which you've mentioned before. Much more support and many more options that can span all budget levels. You can make one hell of a track machine out of the Evo X (or any Evo VIII/IX for that matter). But, I also think the 135 has some great track potential as well. Hopefully we'll see some real-world times at local tracks for both cars once tracks open around the country.
To me, the biggest advantage to the Evo for building a true track car is the aftermarket support...which you've mentioned before. Much more support and many more options that can span all budget levels. You can make one hell of a track machine out of the Evo X (or any Evo VIII/IX for that matter). But, I also think the 135 has some great track potential as well. Hopefully we'll see some real-world times at local tracks for both cars once tracks open around the country.
Went today and drove the 135i again and spent a lot more time with it.
I don't think its as nice of a car as the 335i on the interior, that's for sure. I also don't think it handles nearly as well as my car.
The power difference is pretty hard to overcome, though.
Still, after thought, I am not going to be getting one or getting one for the wife. I think the X is really hard to beat for the price, especially considering you can get one for invoice.
I like my car, but they good grief it needs a tuning tool.
Everyone at the BMW dealership today thought it was a really nice car.
I don't think its as nice of a car as the 335i on the interior, that's for sure. I also don't think it handles nearly as well as my car.
The power difference is pretty hard to overcome, though.
Still, after thought, I am not going to be getting one or getting one for the wife. I think the X is really hard to beat for the price, especially considering you can get one for invoice.
I like my car, but they good grief it needs a tuning tool.
Everyone at the BMW dealership today thought it was a really nice car.
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#394
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Went today and drove the 135i again and spent a lot more time with it.
I don't think its as nice of a car as the 335i on the interior, that's for sure. I also don't think it handles nearly as well as my car.
The power difference is pretty hard to overcome, though.
Still, after thought, I am not going to be getting one or getting one for the wife. I think the X is really hard to beat for the price, especially considering you can get one for invoice.
I like my car, but they good grief it needs a tuning tool.
Everyone at the BMW dealership today thought it was a really nice car.
I don't think its as nice of a car as the 335i on the interior, that's for sure. I also don't think it handles nearly as well as my car.
The power difference is pretty hard to overcome, though.
Still, after thought, I am not going to be getting one or getting one for the wife. I think the X is really hard to beat for the price, especially considering you can get one for invoice.
I like my car, but they good grief it needs a tuning tool.
Everyone at the BMW dealership today thought it was a really nice car.
You are right about the power delivery difference. The 135i just hauls from 1500rpm all the way to redline and pulls hard in every gear. The X didn't feel that way (especially with the way the car just dies up top).
Agree that the 135 doesn't handle as well as the Evo. The Evo just feels more planted to the ground and feels like it wants to be pushed even harder. The 135 doesn't inspire as much confidence. The tires on it are HORRID. They start screaming well before you reach the limits of the suspension. I test-drove both on the same road (probably 1 hour after the other). The Evo did handle better
I completely agree and I plan to track my car eventually. I hope to see a 135i there for some good fun laps. I would never claimed the 135i is not a good performing car. I think(this is just an assumption though) that the EVO will go around the bends quicker even in stock form. These advans and the AWD system create grip that scares the hell out of me every time. Driver makes a huge difference on the track as well though. When I was deciding between the cars it was really the rear end of the 135i that I just disliked...an opinion I know but it bugged me so I decided to go with the EVO. Not to mention the 135i was turning out to be more expensive with the same options like NAVI and stuff. Not by a lot though.
And if you don't like the rear end, that's cool. We all know aesthetics play a huge part in dropping $35k on a car. Can't hate on someone for not liking the way a car was designed. Actually, it's good that you stuck to your guns and bought the car that pleased you most. I personally don't like the rear end on either car, so I would be choosing between the lesser of two evils
#395
evo x or bmw 135i
i love the evo x bmw 135i seems more plush how comfortable is the back seat on the evo x i want something to take friends with. probably looking to buy next week im paying cash btw
#399
Yeah you have to get the butterfly tat on your back after you place an equal rights sticker on your bumper. Get an X, if your looking to haul friends around have you ever considered a station wagon? J/K, buy whatever you feel fits your situation the best.
#402
You don't know what you're talking about. For corner exit power, 0-60 times mean nothing. Go look at 5-60, suddenly the Evo isn't sub-5, it's more like high-5. The 135i would run away. The 0-60 advantage comes strictly from the ability to dump the clutch at high RPM. That's only a benefit from a standing start -- i.e. drag race.
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from the viewpoint of the masses the BMW is the car to own.
from the viewpoint of a guy who thinks and makes his decisions based on what he wants vrs what people want him to want then you might make the case for a mitsubishi.
like me, having had no interest in a X, I can't get over the marketing power of the bmw. without ever even seeing either I want the bmw. I'm that weak. I'm not going to get one, but still...
from the viewpoint of a guy who thinks and makes his decisions based on what he wants vrs what people want him to want then you might make the case for a mitsubishi.
like me, having had no interest in a X, I can't get over the marketing power of the bmw. without ever even seeing either I want the bmw. I'm that weak. I'm not going to get one, but still...
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