Royal Purple
Jul 31, 2008 | 08:11 AM
#61
Wow end of story there^^^
Look I know you have a belief system going on and its all good. Its kinda hard telling people that Jesus isnt real if thats all they can think about
I've 13 cars and used every name brand of oils you can think of.
82 Corolla carb with 600k+ miles using Pennzoil 10-w40
91 Accord with 200k+ miles using Valvoline 10-w30 and on turbo cars. i have a 91 mr2 on Valvoline, RX7 on RP, evo on mobile and also quaker state of a few cars and trucks. I even used Cost co oil on my mirage...
of the brands, guess what I found out....NOT ONE BRAND HAD FAILED ME, but who the f*ck cares what I say or anyone else right, because it all base on legitimate certified testing and only amsoil dose that...
BTW Just also wanted to add, that I have 2 AMGs with over 500hp, one using Valvoline and the other using RP.
Look I know you have a belief system going on and its all good. Its kinda hard telling people that Jesus isnt real if thats all they can think about
I've 13 cars and used every name brand of oils you can think of.
82 Corolla carb with 600k+ miles using Pennzoil 10-w40
91 Accord with 200k+ miles using Valvoline 10-w30 and on turbo cars. i have a 91 mr2 on Valvoline, RX7 on RP, evo on mobile and also quaker state of a few cars and trucks. I even used Cost co oil on my mirage...
of the brands, guess what I found out....NOT ONE BRAND HAD FAILED ME, but who the f*ck cares what I say or anyone else right, because it all base on legitimate certified testing and only amsoil dose that...
BTW Just also wanted to add, that I have 2 AMGs with over 500hp, one using Valvoline and the other using RP.
A belief system based on Test Data....
I have NEVER said another oil will cause an engine failure. They can cause an engine to wear out faster and cost more in the long run.. cost you in fuel mileage, HP and maintenance costs.
I have 345,000 very abused miles on my work van with oil change intervals (using AMSOIL) from 25,000-43,000 miles and it still runs.
Some people just like to know that they are using the best...
Doc
Jul 31, 2008 | 05:10 PM
#62
There ya have it... Don't listen to anyone on the boards... Coming from an expert..
Oh wait... he is on the Boards too... Now what do we do ?? LOL... Sorry, I couldn't resist.
But you speak as though 98K is a lot of miles. How about the 345,000 miles I have on a very abused work van where the oil changes have been from 25,000 to as high as 43,000 mile intervals ? Towing a large trailer, overheated several times due to a water pump and still runs.
84,000 on my 4x4, 63,000 on my other truck, 12,000 on the Lancer and 18,000 on my motorcycle. The only one that has less than a 10,000 mile change is the Lancer at 4000 to switch to 0W-30 from 0W-20 for a little experiment.
I use Oil Analysis from ISO Certified Labs to test my oils and to see what may be going on inside the engine.
Many people come to these Boards to seek out information and Vendors. I have several hundred customers from EVOm alone. I don't see any complaints coming from them and if there was a problem, it would be blasted all over these boards.
Doc
Oh wait... he is on the Boards too... Now what do we do ?? LOL... Sorry, I couldn't resist.
But you speak as though 98K is a lot of miles. How about the 345,000 miles I have on a very abused work van where the oil changes have been from 25,000 to as high as 43,000 mile intervals ? Towing a large trailer, overheated several times due to a water pump and still runs.
84,000 on my 4x4, 63,000 on my other truck, 12,000 on the Lancer and 18,000 on my motorcycle. The only one that has less than a 10,000 mile change is the Lancer at 4000 to switch to 0W-30 from 0W-20 for a little experiment.
I use Oil Analysis from ISO Certified Labs to test my oils and to see what may be going on inside the engine.
Many people come to these Boards to seek out information and Vendors. I have several hundred customers from EVOm alone. I don't see any complaints coming from them and if there was a problem, it would be blasted all over these boards.
Doc
Jul 31, 2008 | 06:20 PM
#63
Question to break up the arguing a bit....
I saw a few times mentioned here about getting oil tested. Is this something the average Joe can get done? You are obviously testing the used oil right? Would there be any point in having a sample from a brand new bottle compared to after 3k or so whenever you change your oil? If its not too costly I would definitely consider testing my oil out of curiousity. I think of it as going to the doctors each year for a checkup and bloodwork to make sure you are still alive and kicking
Just wanna say thanks for all this is great info between the bickering every now and then. I know very little about cars so this is a good read for me.
I saw a few times mentioned here about getting oil tested. Is this something the average Joe can get done? You are obviously testing the used oil right? Would there be any point in having a sample from a brand new bottle compared to after 3k or so whenever you change your oil? If its not too costly I would definitely consider testing my oil out of curiousity. I think of it as going to the doctors each year for a checkup and bloodwork to make sure you are still alive and kicking
Just wanna say thanks for all this is great info between the bickering every now and then. I know very little about cars so this is a good read for me.
Jul 31, 2008 | 08:20 PM
#65
look douche (sorry i couldn't resist!) i'm not really concerned if anybody listens to me or not. i'm not selling either of these products, so the only thing i can go on is personal experience. i just think it's bs when people that don't know **** come in here and try to instruct other people. this isn't really aimed at you Oil Doc, because you know your ****. you're just biased. i'm talking about all these other kids that come in here and just make **** up as they go along to sound as though that have a clue about what they are saying. it's okay to use some of the information on this board as a guide, but don't take it all as law. that's the point i was trying to make. that said, royal purple is still some damn good stuff.
So my car with even more miles then his...and its running great but who cares about that and who cares about your experience...
Also you cant tell someone that they're biased when they have a belief system going on..its like i said cant tell people Jesus isnt real when they so into him...they are gonna reply back they saw him in a wall or in Oil Doc case....legitimate certified testing....only one brand of oil does that here on earth, AMSOIL baby, yeah!!! I'll bet you AMSOIL doesnt even come from earth, $10 says its from Krypton and Superman have to bring it here..its the one oil that does what no OTHER can do
Hey Oil Doc, is there any brand of gas you think I should used?
Last edited by redteam22003; Jul 31, 2008 at 08:32 PM.
Jul 31, 2008 | 10:29 PM
#66
look douche (sorry i couldn't resist!) i'm not really concerned if anybody listens to me or not. i'm not selling either of these products, so the only thing i can go on is personal experience. i just think it's bs when people that don't know **** come in here and try to instruct other people. this isn't really aimed at you Oil Doc, because you know your ****. you're just biased. i'm talking about all these other kids that come in here and just make **** up as they go along to sound as though that have a clue about what they are saying. it's okay to use some of the information on this board as a guide, but don't take it all as law. that's the point i was trying to make. that said, royal purple is still some damn good stuff.
I am not biased.... If I find a better product and company, I will sell that...
RP Just is not that good of an oil... better than some petroleum oils, but not when put against Premium Synthetics.
Doc
Jul 31, 2008 | 10:36 PM
#67
Question to break up the arguing a bit....
I saw a few times mentioned here about getting oil tested. Is this something the average Joe can get done? You are obviously testing the used oil right? Would there be any point in having a sample from a brand new bottle compared to after 3k or so whenever you change your oil? If its not too costly I would definitely consider testing my oil out of curiousity. I think of it as going to the doctors each year for a checkup and bloodwork to make sure you are still alive and kicking
Just wanna say thanks for all this is great info between the bickering every now and then. I know very little about cars so this is a good read for me.
I saw a few times mentioned here about getting oil tested. Is this something the average Joe can get done? You are obviously testing the used oil right? Would there be any point in having a sample from a brand new bottle compared to after 3k or so whenever you change your oil? If its not too costly I would definitely consider testing my oil out of curiousity. I think of it as going to the doctors each year for a checkup and bloodwork to make sure you are still alive and kicking
Just wanna say thanks for all this is great info between the bickering every now and then. I know very little about cars so this is a good read for me.
You can get an Analysis from a Certified Lab for under $25.00 including postage.
Your blood work analogy is basically what I say... When Analysis is performed and used properly, you will not only know the condition of the oil, wear and contaminant particles but may also help avoid a catostophic failure.
Doc
Aug 1, 2008 | 06:58 AM
#69
I used Royal Purple for about 1000 miles in my MS3 (I know, it is no Evo X) and it was black when I changed it. Ever since then, I have been using Mobil 1. Even after 3000 miles, it look fairly clean. I won't be using Royal Purple again.
Aug 1, 2008 | 11:18 AM
#70
okie stupid question, i did my first oil change at 5k miles (lol recommended by the manual if you don't drive hard), the folks at the shop put RP in the EVO. I've added about 2k miles on it since then, shall i switch it out now or it doesnt matter?
Go back to mobil 1 or use AMSOIL?
nebo
Go back to mobil 1 or use AMSOIL?
nebo
Aug 3, 2008 | 11:21 AM
#72
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I choose Royal Purple. In the 916 Porsche my shop used to own, and race, we saw a 40 degree (F) difference in operating temperatures going from Redline to Royal Purple on the track. Repeated the process on the street, especially in areas prone to stop-go, bumper to bumper, traffic.
The two main key points I try to point out to people are the differences between RP and other oil makers, is that in all my experience RP enables the car to idle smoother than any other synthetic oil. The difference is noticeable from the moment you start the car. Starting is a tad less energy consuming - requires less time; less cranks, to start the engine.
As for RP purple being responsible for previous engine failures that were blamed on the oil brand, that's just non-sense. The differences between these top end motor oils can literally be trivial and may really be subjective depending on vehicle application, driving style, and weather. Don't take my word for it or theirs for that matter; be a real car enthusiast and try your top picks. It might not be RP; it might, but that is truly the best way to make a good judgment call on which type of oil to consider. Although, don't think by picking a lesser brand will cause you engine to cease. NO! USE LOGIC!
I continue to run RP 20w-50 in my EVO IX MR and have since its first oil change. I change the oil before 3,000 are up, and I use high quality Purolator (sp?) Pure One oil filters. I currently have 33,000 miles on this engine and not a single hiccup. I also run RP through the remainder of my car where applicable, i.e. rear diff, and tranny.
I have run 20w-50 on my 97 Supra TT since the day I bought it. Currently it has about 73,000 miles, which is about 40K that I have clocked onto the odometer myself. Need I remind you it can be daily driven (if you have patience, a very well trained and precise left leg, the clutch is....well let's just say my dad Z06 leaves me wondering how) and is currently running just shy of 600whp (low boost, 93 oct) on an HKS Twin Turbo kit, and the entire bottom end is OEM Toyota.
My second favorite oil is Amsoil in case you’re wondering. My least favorite is Mobil 1. The parts of my family that are into their vehicles - whether it be modding, maintaining, or restoring- also, use RP.
The only cars within my immediate family that continue to use Mobil 1 are the AMGs. If you have ever owned a Benz, it’s really BEST to stay with what is recommended by the manual. From my parents' experiences, when you go astray from the recommendations of the owner's manual, you need only wait a short time to realize why they are called recommendations. Mercedes often uses custom oils with varying additives that are to be used within the engine depending on the mileage, and operating environment. Adding any other oil can cause problems down the road- problems that carry price tags that would make you blind (for instance, Kompessor V8 engines run about $53,000 bare. JUST THE ENGINE. E63 6.2litre engines are currently priced separately at just shy of 60K. To give you some type of idea of how over priced Benz parts are the new LS7 Z06 engine is price at about 12K.)
The two main key points I try to point out to people are the differences between RP and other oil makers, is that in all my experience RP enables the car to idle smoother than any other synthetic oil. The difference is noticeable from the moment you start the car. Starting is a tad less energy consuming - requires less time; less cranks, to start the engine.
As for RP purple being responsible for previous engine failures that were blamed on the oil brand, that's just non-sense. The differences between these top end motor oils can literally be trivial and may really be subjective depending on vehicle application, driving style, and weather. Don't take my word for it or theirs for that matter; be a real car enthusiast and try your top picks. It might not be RP; it might, but that is truly the best way to make a good judgment call on which type of oil to consider. Although, don't think by picking a lesser brand will cause you engine to cease. NO! USE LOGIC!
I continue to run RP 20w-50 in my EVO IX MR and have since its first oil change. I change the oil before 3,000 are up, and I use high quality Purolator (sp?) Pure One oil filters. I currently have 33,000 miles on this engine and not a single hiccup. I also run RP through the remainder of my car where applicable, i.e. rear diff, and tranny.
I have run 20w-50 on my 97 Supra TT since the day I bought it. Currently it has about 73,000 miles, which is about 40K that I have clocked onto the odometer myself. Need I remind you it can be daily driven (if you have patience, a very well trained and precise left leg, the clutch is....well let's just say my dad Z06 leaves me wondering how) and is currently running just shy of 600whp (low boost, 93 oct) on an HKS Twin Turbo kit, and the entire bottom end is OEM Toyota.
My second favorite oil is Amsoil in case you’re wondering. My least favorite is Mobil 1. The parts of my family that are into their vehicles - whether it be modding, maintaining, or restoring- also, use RP.
The only cars within my immediate family that continue to use Mobil 1 are the AMGs. If you have ever owned a Benz, it’s really BEST to stay with what is recommended by the manual. From my parents' experiences, when you go astray from the recommendations of the owner's manual, you need only wait a short time to realize why they are called recommendations. Mercedes often uses custom oils with varying additives that are to be used within the engine depending on the mileage, and operating environment. Adding any other oil can cause problems down the road- problems that carry price tags that would make you blind (for instance, Kompessor V8 engines run about $53,000 bare. JUST THE ENGINE. E63 6.2litre engines are currently priced separately at just shy of 60K. To give you some type of idea of how over priced Benz parts are the new LS7 Z06 engine is price at about 12K.)
I was totally with you until I put these two quotes together:
Although, don't think by picking a lesser brand will cause you engine to cease. NO! USE LOGIC!
Mercedes often uses custom oils with varying additives that are to be used within the engine depending on the mileage, and operating environment. Adding any other oil can cause problems down the road- problems that carry price tags that would make you blind (for instance, Kompessor V8 engines run about $53,000 bare. JUST THE ENGINE. E63 6.2litre engines are currently priced separately at just shy of 60K. To give you some type of idea of how over priced Benz parts are the new LS7 Z06 engine is price at about 12K.)
Aug 4, 2008 | 09:56 AM
#73
that's not the best way to compare oils seeing as how RP is dark purple to start off with. if you measure the color it is before, with the color it is after, there's about the same amount of difference between the before and after with mobil 1. look closer at the oil and it's just darker purple. of course it's going to look black, it's purple to start. also, have you ever thought that maybe the RP is cleaning more of the gunk out of your engine because if it is indeed black, it's coming out with the oil and not staying in the engine? if the mobil 1 is still clean, then it's not cleaning anything out. IF the RP actually is black, and not just darker purple. from my experience, it seems to just be darker purple.
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