exhaust system?
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Ams Ftw
+1 for AMS dual . Final (weight) numbers aren't out yet but it shouldn't be tons heavier because they kept the piping single all the way back to the muffler, so it's more of a "dual outlet" exhaust than a "true dual". The sound will be user tunable as mentioned earlier and they are also toying with interchangable tips as well. I like choice in case you hadnt noticed
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Ah no we don't have a sportscar The S2000 is a sportscar the Evo is a sports sedan it has four doors and the top is welded shut
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"ricing up" to the Honda's, Subaru's, Toyota's etc. Again, just my opinion and I know not a popular one!
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I like the stock exhaust's sound at high revs, but there's a fair amount of drone at highway speeds. Do any of the aftermarket setups sound better than stock when hard on the gas, but drone less when cruising?
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Nice pics of the ETS exhaust installed, that's what I recently put on my car and I'll do a full review after it's been on the car for a week with sound clips/video hopefully.
The height is adustable on the slotted brackets supplied and based on the pictures he could go up another inch or so. The ETS and Buschur definitely have their own sound to them, either is a good exhaust with slight HP advantage going to the Buschur from what I've seen so far on the dynos this weekend. The ETS has a little better under car clearance which may be an issue if you have epic speed bumps and a lowered car.
The ETS Dual catback with UR Mini-Muffler is decent on sound control, but I couldn't imagine driving around with a full test pipe so it's right on the edge of being too loud for me. Driving at lower speeds around town it's totally fine at lower RPM's but wakes up when on the throttle. Highway speeds at 65-70 MPH it's very liveable but 75 MPH you can start hearing that drone from the engine and 80 MPH is right at the limits. I blame our 3750 RPM @ 80 MPH final drive ratio and you will get a good 2-4 MPG better gas mileage if you can slow down to the 65- 70 range anyways.
The problem is that even with the stock exhaust, after putting in the AMS front motor mount it was already getting quite loud from the engine bay area so I'm not sure any exhaust would be able to contain the noise the engine is producing. I may swap back the stock motor mount to verify the difference it is making. I also have a UR 3" Downpipe and it could very well be adding to the noise from the engine area at highway speeds.
While at first glance some may think this thread is useless, but those that are researching the exhausts can form their own opinions from the direct experiences of those that already have the exhausts.
The ETS Dual catback with UR Mini-Muffler is decent on sound control, but I couldn't imagine driving around with a full test pipe so it's right on the edge of being too loud for me. Driving at lower speeds around town it's totally fine at lower RPM's but wakes up when on the throttle. Highway speeds at 65-70 MPH it's very liveable but 75 MPH you can start hearing that drone from the engine and 80 MPH is right at the limits. I blame our 3750 RPM @ 80 MPH final drive ratio and you will get a good 2-4 MPG better gas mileage if you can slow down to the 65- 70 range anyways.
The problem is that even with the stock exhaust, after putting in the AMS front motor mount it was already getting quite loud from the engine bay area so I'm not sure any exhaust would be able to contain the noise the engine is producing. I may swap back the stock motor mount to verify the difference it is making. I also have a UR 3" Downpipe and it could very well be adding to the noise from the engine area at highway speeds.
While at first glance some may think this thread is useless, but those that are researching the exhausts can form their own opinions from the direct experiences of those that already have the exhausts.
Last edited by Hiboost; Aug 18, 2008 at 07:02 AM.
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Thanks for the help Chris! You basically covered it, but yes the tip location in the bumper cutout is completely adjustable laterally as well as vertically. We do this to allow for personal preference with regard to aesthetics, rather than stick you with what we think looks best
We use dual 2.5" rear sections because twin 2.5" piping has the equivalent volume of 3.8" piping, and given that, more flow won't be necessary until 700whp+ (at which point you can opt for our 3.5" ). The merge collector design and dual 2.5" exits also allows for great ground clearance which comes at a premium on Xs as many of you already know
Tom
We use dual 2.5" rear sections because twin 2.5" piping has the equivalent volume of 3.8" piping, and given that, more flow won't be necessary until 700whp+ (at which point you can opt for our 3.5" ). The merge collector design and dual 2.5" exits also allows for great ground clearance which comes at a premium on Xs as many of you already know
Tom
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The problem I have with the majority of "after-market" exhausts that many have that "fart can" look to them with the characteristic noise pattern it releases. IMHO.... it gives the car the "ricer" look to it. I say upgrade the turbo, change the air intake, install a test pipe, get a custom tune....... and that should be waaaaay more horsepower and torque needed for the vast majority of us! Leave the
"ricing up" to the Honda's, Subaru's, Toyota's etc. Again, just my opinion and I know not a popular one!
"ricing up" to the Honda's, Subaru's, Toyota's etc. Again, just my opinion and I know not a popular one!
If you don't want your car to sound like an import, don't drive an import.
-Chris
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