Is the EVO X a gas hog? not really...
Aug 24, 2008 | 08:22 PM
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Logic doesnt really make sense to me??? Tank sizes are different so thats why one goes further than another. The only thing to look at is MPG. The truck is better to get at 10 mpg than the galant? If you both drive the same distance, the truck used more gas....
Aug 24, 2008 | 08:29 PM
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This is just about the dumbest thread ever (and I've posted my fair share of dumb ones).
Anyone that wonders why the US is lagging behind other nations in math and science only has to look at the "logic" in this thread to see why we fail.
Seriously people, Miles Per Gallon (or for ya'll in Canada or Europe, l/100km) is the ONLY way to compare two different vehicles for fuel usage.
Who cares how long you can go on a tank? My father in law's RV gets 8mpg. It has a 250 gallon tank, so it can go 2000 miles on a tank. Does that make it efficient or not a gas hog? NO.
And don't forget that the X requires 91/93, so an extra 30 to 40 cents a gallon more...
Anyone that wonders why the US is lagging behind other nations in math and science only has to look at the "logic" in this thread to see why we fail.
Seriously people, Miles Per Gallon (or for ya'll in Canada or Europe, l/100km) is the ONLY way to compare two different vehicles for fuel usage.
Who cares how long you can go on a tank? My father in law's RV gets 8mpg. It has a 250 gallon tank, so it can go 2000 miles on a tank. Does that make it efficient or not a gas hog? NO.
And don't forget that the X requires 91/93, so an extra 30 to 40 cents a gallon more...
Aug 24, 2008 | 08:29 PM
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the truck used more gas, but the galant ddnt get any further in distance. if u but both vehicles on a course, they wld arrive at the same time. my point was in the case of the galant vs the truck that there is no benefit if they can travel the exact same distance so in that case only hookup the jetskis & romp...
Aug 24, 2008 | 08:38 PM
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the truck used more gas, but the galant ddnt get any further in distance. if u but both vehicles on a course, they wld arrive at the same time. my point was in the case of the galant vs the truck that there is no benefit if they can travel the exact same distance so in that case only hookup the jetskis & romp...
Your trip is going to be twice as expensive in the truck and more pollution. The only benefit is the distance without refilling. Who cares about that???
Get that RV man get gas every other month. You can tow jet skies too.
Aug 24, 2008 | 08:46 PM
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This is just about the dumbest thread ever (and I've posted my fair share of dumb ones).
Who cares how long you can go on a tank? My father in law's RV gets 8mpg. It has a 250 gallon tank, so it can go 2000 miles on a tank. Does that make it efficient or not a gas hog? NO.
And don't forget that the X requires 91/93, so an extra 30 to 40 cents a gallon more...
Who cares how long you can go on a tank? My father in law's RV gets 8mpg. It has a 250 gallon tank, so it can go 2000 miles on a tank. Does that make it efficient or not a gas hog? NO.
And don't forget that the X requires 91/93, so an extra 30 to 40 cents a gallon more...
so if its a dumb thread, do u feel "more intelligent" now by posting on it??my whole point is that a smaller vehicle isn't necessarily getting you that much further down the road. total mileage is important for people who take roadtrips, have long commutes, or use their vehicles for work related purposes. we all know that the Europeans get better mileage/range than us ( i mentioned that in post 1 comparing the US-spec Smart to the UK-spec model).
it did not say MPG isn't important, but rather that total mileage traveled BETWEEN fillups is more important. the total number of fillups per year is what affects people the most in the pocket. i didn't factor in octane rating bcuz these number are just averages only. yes the RV is not efficient but if he can drive 2000miles on a single tank of fuel is a person who gets 200miles per tank & filling up 10 times on the same trip really saving any money in fuel cost???
Aug 24, 2008 | 09:11 PM
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Your logic only makes sense, when money is a complete non issue.
Your trip is going to be twice as expensive in the truck and more pollution. The only benefit is the distance without refilling. Who cares about that???
Get that RV man get gas every other month. You can tow jet skies too.
Your trip is going to be twice as expensive in the truck and more pollution. The only benefit is the distance without refilling. Who cares about that???
Get that RV man get gas every other month. You can tow jet skies too.
a guy on the Rover forums in the UK has a Diesl V8 Range Rover with propane getting 56mpg. his diesel meets Europe's extra strict emissions, he has 500ft-lbs of torque, + he only has to fill up once every 1545 miles. he drives 12000 miles a year so he's only buying 7.7 tanks of diesel per year. he only has to fill propane once every other month.
i'm not saying you should avoid buying an efficient vehicle. my point is that the car you buy does not have to be small, ugly, or lacking in styling. you can still have performance + good fuel economy if u shop around.
for those on the MPG kick, the car u need that has fun factor + sips fuel is the Opel ECO Speedster. that car has a 1L turbodiesel that not only averaged 113mpg, but also averaged 130mph during the 24 hours of Le Mans at the same time. talk about defying physics...
Aug 24, 2008 | 09:41 PM
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and that RV would cost $925.00 for 1 tank
That's at 3.70/gal
Aug 24, 2008 | 09:54 PM
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yes the RV is not efficient but if he can drive 2000miles on a single tank of fuel is a person who gets 200miles per tank & filling up 10 times on the same trip really saving any money in fuel cost???
2000 miles at 8mpg vs. 2000 miles at 24mpg (in the X) and somehow you're trying to argue that the RV saves fuel cost?
/me backs slowly away before something rubs off on him
Aug 24, 2008 | 09:54 PM
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getting good range on an EVO X is possible but difficult to achieve. the tune allows the motor to run more efficiently which should increase its range
as far as tank size on cars go here is another way to look at it. my wife drives about 200 miles per week in her Land Rover LR3. it gets about 10mpg & the tank is 22.9 gallons. she fills it up once a week. if she had the Diesel model from the UK which gets 27mpg, she would only have to fillup once every 618miles or every 3 weeks. if we had that same diesel model & then added a propane kit, her mpg would increase to 47mpg giving her a range of 1076 miles or only filling up once a month.
as far as hybrids having small tanks go, they all don't. the '08 Nissan Altima Hybrid has a 20gal fuel tank. it averages 34mpg combined (35city/33hwy) for a range of 680 miles. the gas model '08 Altima averages 27mpgs (23city/31hwy) & gets a range of 540 miles. both cars have the same size fuel tank + same size 2.5L i4 motor. its safe to say that the electric motor in the hybrid model makes up the extra 140 miles of distance.
Now the Cadillac Escalade Hybrid gets lower mpgs than the gas Altima (20.5 vs 27), however the fuel tank in the Cadi is larger (by 6 gallons) so it has almost the same range (533 vs 540 miles). so yes to an extent mpg is important, but total overall distance between fillups is even more important especially if u r planning a roadtrip.
lets say u need to buy a hybrid as a DD (so u can enjoy your EVO on weekends). the Altima hybrid would make more sense than a Prius because its total range is higher (680 miles vs 495) because its fuel tank is larger than Prius (20gal vs 11.9) + it has more room, costs about $2k less & doesn't look like a babyshoe.
mpg is ok to look at, but i look at how many times a year do i have to fillup. in the scenario of the wife's Rover, she could go from 52 fillups a year to 12 after 2010 when Land Rover brings over the diesel models. thats an instant savings of about $3700/year in fuel cost in a 6000lb SUV. no need to buy that puddlejumper if u only have to get gas once a month!!!!!!
as far as tank size on cars go here is another way to look at it. my wife drives about 200 miles per week in her Land Rover LR3. it gets about 10mpg & the tank is 22.9 gallons. she fills it up once a week. if she had the Diesel model from the UK which gets 27mpg, she would only have to fillup once every 618miles or every 3 weeks. if we had that same diesel model & then added a propane kit, her mpg would increase to 47mpg giving her a range of 1076 miles or only filling up once a month.
as far as hybrids having small tanks go, they all don't. the '08 Nissan Altima Hybrid has a 20gal fuel tank. it averages 34mpg combined (35city/33hwy) for a range of 680 miles. the gas model '08 Altima averages 27mpgs (23city/31hwy) & gets a range of 540 miles. both cars have the same size fuel tank + same size 2.5L i4 motor. its safe to say that the electric motor in the hybrid model makes up the extra 140 miles of distance.
Now the Cadillac Escalade Hybrid gets lower mpgs than the gas Altima (20.5 vs 27), however the fuel tank in the Cadi is larger (by 6 gallons) so it has almost the same range (533 vs 540 miles). so yes to an extent mpg is important, but total overall distance between fillups is even more important especially if u r planning a roadtrip.
lets say u need to buy a hybrid as a DD (so u can enjoy your EVO on weekends). the Altima hybrid would make more sense than a Prius because its total range is higher (680 miles vs 495) because its fuel tank is larger than Prius (20gal vs 11.9) + it has more room, costs about $2k less & doesn't look like a babyshoe.
mpg is ok to look at, but i look at how many times a year do i have to fillup. in the scenario of the wife's Rover, she could go from 52 fillups a year to 12 after 2010 when Land Rover brings over the diesel models. thats an instant savings of about $3700/year in fuel cost in a 6000lb SUV. no need to buy that puddlejumper if u only have to get gas once a month!!!!!!This IS the dumbest thread ever. Here's why: The thread title says "gas hog", but you have changed the subject to range on a fuel tank. What the heck does that have to do with fuel economy. Answer- Zip.
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