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Old Sep 30, 2008, 03:50 PM
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Why is the trunk funny?
Old Sep 30, 2008, 03:53 PM
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People have complained about it being ridiculously small.
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I see no problem with it. I can load over $150 worth of groceries in the trunk along with my toolbox, extra oil I carry, etc.
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Originally Posted by TEGGSRB18C1
Well, let's take out the Evo in the equation. Let's say that Top Gear was just doing a specific review of the STI. Do you really think their opinion of the car would change that much?

Their points still stay valid, poop tires, soft suspension, more than questionable looks....what more is there to say....Subaru missed the mark on the new STI. Regaurdless of wether it was pitted up against a GSR or an FQ360.
Agreed. Though, I think all STi's have been too soft..
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Originally Posted by evo_Josh
I see no problem with it. I can load over $150 worth of groceries in the trunk along with my toolbox, extra oil I carry, etc.
According to your sig you have an 03, the trunk comment applies to the Evo X.
Old Sep 30, 2008, 04:12 PM
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Oh whoops. I thought it was about Evo trunks in general.
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
I know that, I'm just saying from experience it seems that the STI is still the better daily driver although I still want an Evo X eventually (I think).
Don't forget that the STI also has the 6-speed transmission (bulletproof), the upgraded diffs, the DCCD, the bigger turbo stock, better suspension, better brakes, etc. It would cost more to make the WRX an STI than it would to just buy the damn STI.


From NASIOC.COM:
2008 WRX ... 2008 STI ... 2009 WRX
0-60: 5.7 ... 5.0 ... 5.1
0-100: 16.1 ... 14.1 ... 13.5
1/4 mile: 14.4 @ 94.7 ... 13.6 @ 98.2 ... 13.8 @ 101
60-0: 124 ft ... 119 ft ... 124 ft
Lateral acceleration: .83g ... .90g ... .87g
Fuel economy: 17.9 mpg ... 16.0 mpg ... 22.2 mpg
Max interior noise: 74 dBA ... 78 dBA ... 70 dBA


Looks pretty close on braking and handling. ( i know it is different tests on different days but still so close the money difference is hard to over look.
Old Sep 30, 2008, 04:36 PM
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Damn ya'll get ****ty gas mileage lol. Is that a "boxer" feature?
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whoa... 09 wrx looks like it'll be a good deal.
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Originally Posted by jimm
Up until this LAST car that is what they said. Rewatch and you will see they prefer the EVO X to the '08 STi.

On a side note, I think with the new improved 09 WRX there is little reason to get an 08 STi. A few mods at it will be as fast as the STi.
Except that glass tranny which still can't handle more than 300whp/330wtorque if driven by the majority of normal people (there are freaks who drive like 400whp/400wtorque on the 5 speed, but 99% of people would agree its borrowed time)
Different heads, intake manifold...
Also the about $10,000 in sheetmetal work to try and get the OEM widebody.
Also 3 differentials?
yadda yadda yadda.
I think the REAL clunker is Ralliart vs Evo MR this year haha
**** has the exact same longblock and tranny even.

Also your braking numbers seem off. Most of the mags (if were gonna magazine race) have the 08 STi at 98-105 ft.

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Originally Posted by Paikman GTR
Except that glass tranny which still can't handle more than 300whp/330wtorque if driven by the majority of normal people (there are freaks who drive like 400whp/400wtorque on the 5 speed, but 99% of people would agree its borrowed time)
Different heads, intake manifold...
Also the about $10,000 in sheetmetal work to try and get the OEM widebody.
Also 3 differentials?
yadda yadda yadda.
I think the REAL clunker is Ralliart vs Evo MR this year haha
**** has the exact same longblock and tranny even.

Also your braking numbers seem off. Most of the mags (if were gonna magazine race) have the 08 STi at 98-105 ft.
yeah there are peole who really bealives the RA is a "detuned" Evo . Because they share the same longblock, and a simular tranny. And the awd system which is based on the IX.

I'm sure you are remember the WRX vs STI fights , which was exactly the same Untill they find it out they own.
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Originally Posted by Paikman GTR
Except that glass tranny which still can't handle more than 300whp/330wtorque if driven by the majority of normal people (there are freaks who drive like 400whp/400wtorque on the 5 speed, but 99% of people would agree its borrowed time)
Different heads, intake manifold...
Also the about $10,000 in sheetmetal work to try and get the OEM widebody.
Also 3 differentials?
yadda yadda yadda.
I think the REAL clunker is Ralliart vs Evo MR this year haha
**** has the exact same longblock and tranny even.

Also your braking numbers seem off. Most of the mags (if were gonna magazine race) have the 08 STi at 98-105 ft.
Not my numbers...from road and track. I assume the tests are equalish...Besides braking differs from person to person. Lewis Hamilton probably needs less space than anyone on this BB.
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Originally Posted by jimm
From NASIOC.COM:
2008 WRX ... 2008 STI ... 2009 WRX
0-60: 5.7 ... 5.0 ... 5.1
0-100: 16.1 ... 14.1 ... 13.5
1/4 mile: 14.4 @ 94.7 ... 13.6 @ 98.2 ... 13.8 @ 101
60-0: 124 ft ... 119 ft ... 124 ft
Lateral acceleration: .83g ... .90g ... .87g
Fuel economy: 17.9 mpg ... 16.0 mpg ... 22.2 mpg
Max interior noise: 74 dBA ... 78 dBA ... 70 dBA


Looks pretty close on braking and handling. ( i know it is different tests on different days but still so close the money difference is hard to over look.
Take it to a track and see how it does there, I bet you the STI is faster. The 6-speed alone is worth the extra cost since the 5-speed in the WRX has a tendency to not take abuse well.
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
Take it to a track and see how it does there, I bet you the STI is faster. The 6-speed alone is worth the extra cost since the 5-speed in the WRX has a tendency to not take abuse well.

Its faster here too...just not by the margin one would expect. I agree that the few mods that it would take to make the WRX faster would also make the STi faster also....but 7K difference the difference seems small....smaller then the Ralliart to MR at least.
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Originally Posted by jimm
Its faster here too...just not by the margin one would expect. I agree that the few mods that it would take to make the WRX faster would also make the STi faster also....but 7K difference the difference seems small....smaller then the Ralliart to MR at least.
Yes, but the RA and the X GSR is dangerously close in pricing... The fact is, if you dont mind to drive MT then the GSR is a better deal then the RA . If you like racing.


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