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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 10:28 AM
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avoid major roads??? thats the dumbest thing i've heard. You'll be fine for a couple miles. Just take it easy. Major roads will be in the best condition so drive them if you can but don't be afraid to take it slow, who cares if you get honked at a couple times.

But in all seriousness the most importand thing to driving in the snow is you, the driver. Even the best snow tires can't magically defy the laws of physics and give your car super snow driving powers. My point is that if you have experience driving in the snow and are fine with taking it slow for a couple miles (which is hardly anything) then you'll be fine. Especially since you are smart enough to know that you are on bad tires for the snow.

dumbest thing you'v heard? give me a break...it was one suggestion.

have you ever driven in the snow with summer tires on? you really shouldn't do it AT ALL, let alone going on major roads with other people around.

ps. i should add, im live in a suburb of Chicago; im use to soccer moms in big SUVs talking on their cell phones that dont understand why people are moving slower than they are...
pss. how could i forget, my budy JUST had his STI rear-ended because he was "going to slow" for the lady behind him.

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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ddawg1130
avoid major roads??? thats the dumbest thing i've heard. You'll be fine for a couple miles. Just take it easy. Major roads will be in the best condition so drive them if you can but don't be afraid to take it slow, who cares if you get honked at a couple times.

But in all seriousness the most importand thing to driving in the snow is you, the driver. Even the best snow tires can't magically defy the laws of physics and give your car super snow driving powers. My point is that if you have experience driving in the snow and are fine with taking it slow for a couple miles (which is hardly anything) then you'll be fine. Especially since you are smart enough to know that you are on bad tires for the snow.
actually i beg to differ since i stopped on ice with my Blizzaks. Twice. Quickly!Never done that before in my life! Super snow driving powers FTW

To the OP as mentioned before, either unbolt the 4 wheels and take another car or drive slowly (and carefully) on major streets since they should be in the best condition.

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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 11:00 AM
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Have you ever driven in the snow with summer tires on? You really shouldn't do it at all, let alone going on major roads with other people around.

Ps. I should add, im live in a suburb of chicago; im use to soccer moms in big suvs talking on their cell phones that dont understand why people are moving slower than they are...
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 11:00 AM
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I hope there aren't any hills between you & the shop. Don't risk it, unless you absolutely have to. No gas or braking around corners!
Old Dec 16, 2008 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by John83
dumbest thing you'v heard? give me a break...it was one suggestion.

have you ever driven in the snow with summer tires on? you really shouldn't do it AT ALL, let alone going on major roads with other people around.

ps. i should add, im live in a suburb of Chicago; im use to soccer moms in big SUVs talking on their cell phones that dont understand why people are moving slower than they are...
pss. how could i forget, my budy JUST had his STI rear-ended because he was "going to slow" for the lady behind him.
It wasn't the dumbest, but it isn't the brightest idea either. Major roads are more likely to be plowed, or at least driven on enough that some of the snow has melted... Trust me, I drove on major roads all the way to work (the long way) to avoid the other roads this morning. Still took me an extra 30 min to get to work.

Yes, I have, both in the Evo, and in the Porsche, and in an S2000, AND in an Audi TT. All with summers on. Hell, the Evo I took up the canyon one time with the stock Advans on. It had only snowed at the top, but I instantly had .000001% of the traction I had before, but I survived by going very very slowly. The other cars' summer tires weren't quite like the stock Evo tires, and they've all done just fine, especially the Audi (Quattro ftw).

Other people are idiots, but avoiding a major PLOWED road for an unplowed minor road, is just plain stupid.

PS I should add that I live in Salt Lake City. Land of Mormon Assault Vehicles (Tahoes, Mini-vans, etc) and the typical M.O.M. (mom on a mission, like you described). If they hit me, then I get a new bumper and who knows what else replaced, at least it wasn't MY fault (or your friend's fault). Turn on your emergency blinkers if you are going drastically slower than surrounding traffic, it isn't that hard of a concept.

PPS: It is PPS not PSS. Post post script makes a whole lot more sense than post script script.


Point is: You should be fine as long as you take it easy, and go later in the afternoon before work gets out for people, but after a decent amount of people have been on the roads (to help melt the ice). Also, it's not that hard to pull over and stop if you feel like the roads aren't in a condition you can drive in.

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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 11:21 AM
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that message wasn't for you but whatever.

i understand main road are plowed. i suggest to stay off the road; dont hit someone else cause you dont have the right tires on.
Old Dec 16, 2008 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by John83
that message wasn't for you but whatever.

i understand main road are plowed. i suggest to stay off the road; dont hit someone else cause you dont have the right tires on.
No worries, I didn't think it was, I was just making sure I was clear that I had had snow experience with summer tires before continuing my post.

And yes, if you don't think you can avoid hitting someone else, stay off the roads COMPLETELY. Side roads aren't going to help that, because then instead of someone else you'll run into something else. Point is that the likelyhood of surviving a main road is much higher, even with other people on the road. And the other people is why I suggested you go sometime when the roads aren't crowded.
Old Dec 16, 2008 | 12:20 PM
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Frig. I know the tires are for summer, but it's only two miles.

Take it easy, keep your distance, and go get some damn winter tires on. Limp it all the way there.

Good luck.
Old Dec 16, 2008 | 12:26 PM
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If you're this worried about it I'll make it simple for you. Don't go.

I personally think you'll be fine. AWD + sensible driver, even with skateboard wheels on the ice you should be ok. Go light on the brakes, use the gas/gearing to do your heavy lifting with regards to acceleration/deceleration and you'll get there without hassle. When in doubt go slow as hell and stay on the busiest roads you can. They are likely the roads with the least amount of ice.

Again, if you depend on the answers here to help you decide, you should stay home. I'm not meaning this as an insult. Just saying, if you're that uncertain you're better off safe than sorry.
Old Dec 16, 2008 | 03:17 PM
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We just got about 3 inches of snow over the weekend here in the northwest. I need to get the Evo to the tire store to get snow tires installed it's about 2 miles away. Can i make it? There is about and inch of packed snow/ice on the streets. I'm currently sliding around the streets in my 93 240sx but there is no way i'm going to keep that up. Wanted to get everyones thoughts before i risk it in the Evo.
Read my experience

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Just some thoughts on driving under winter condition with stock advan tires. I was caught with 8-12" of snow this past weekend in the Reno, NV area. When I was driving off the resort, I was driving under 20 mph, 2nd gear, and I turned, braked, and my car started to drift. Given this is my first time driving under winter conditions, I panic, started to break, and engine stalled. I came in about 6 inches to the car opposite side. That was slowest potential accident drift EVER. My car was literally moving at 5 mph toward the opposing car. Luckily, there was no damage and I drove the next 100 miles in some 45 mph wind, and 8 in of snow. I was actually surprised on how the EVO X handled with the advans under these mild conditions, it wasn't all that bad. But I can't imagine if there are more than 3 inches of stacked snow.

You know, if you are less than 2 miles, why don't you just cough up, and have it towl there for 50 bucks, if your insurance covers it, and most do if you have that in your policy, it's free.

It was not fun for me just not able to have any control over my car. All season tires at a minimum!
Old Dec 16, 2008 | 03:28 PM
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funny this thread came up today. we just got a small covering of snow in our area and i have the advan s4 all season because snow is pretty infrequent so i didn't feel the need for full on snow tires.....plus i like to go fast when i can and didn't want to compromise that.

i got to drive around the neighborhood to test them out only to find that they pretty much suck in the snow. straight line acceleration was moderated by the sawc in snow mode but there was some wheel spinning and turning at low speeds resulted in understeer and sliding.....i will say that i pushed it in the turns a couple of times to find that although it was sliding, it never got worse than what was already happening (i.e., i didn't really lose control actually the harder i pushed it the quicker the back end swung around). if i were going faster i think i would have had an argument with the curb.

stopping wasn't any bit of an issue however.

how is cornering in snow tires? can you push it a little?
Old Dec 16, 2008 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by boozeup&riot
If you're this worried about it I'll make it simple for you. Don't go.

I personally think you'll be fine. AWD + sensible driver, even with skateboard wheels on the ice you should be ok. Go light on the brakes, use the gas/gearing to do your heavy lifting with regards to acceleration/deceleration and you'll get there without hassle. When in doubt go slow as hell and stay on the busiest roads you can. They are likely the roads with the least amount of ice.

Again, if you depend on the answers here to help you decide, you should stay home. I'm not meaning this as an insult. Just saying, if you're that uncertain you're better off safe than sorry.

After driving today, I would suggest taking the wheels in your 240 if there is ice and any slightest incline in the road. I have all-season tires, and was driving on a road that had the smallest incline (hardly noticeable). However, there was a solid sheet of ice, and the car in front of me was stopped, but sliding backwards. I stopped, and started to slide backwards too. I couldn't believe it. This road was maybe 1/10 the steepness of a standard driveway. Luckily, I was able to drive onto the shoulder to get around it. Stock summer tires would be even worse with the slightest bit of ice. I wouldn't risk it, because you literally can have no control with how hard the summer tires are in the cold. Only go if its a straight line with no turns and no inclines at all.
Old Dec 16, 2008 | 06:26 PM
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...why I suggested you go sometime when the roads aren't crowded.
thats a prety good idea.

i also did a slight test drive today, 235/40 blizzaks, and i notice the car still plows through the turn unless you give i some gas to rotate the rear. theres still a ton of ice on the road where i live though :-/
Old Dec 16, 2008 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by John83
thats a prety good idea.

i also did a slight test drive today, 235/40 blizzaks, and i notice the car still plows through the turn unless you give i some gas to rotate the rear. theres still a ton of ice on the road where i live though :-/
i was wondering that. it is pretty cool how all the onboard nannies keep it relatively on track and under control.
Old Dec 16, 2008 | 06:44 PM
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you can feel that too. you need to go into a turn with speed/wheel spin otherwise is cuts power almost to a full stop if you bog out.



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