GoodCaptain

[QUOTE=DeeezNuuuts83;6619854]There was a C&D test where the WRX posted some really awesome numbers that were better than a lot of (but not all) publications' test results:

0-60 mph: 4.7 seconds
1/4 mile: 13.5 seconds @ 102 mph

Pretty decent, and still quicker than a lot of magazine tests of Evo Xs and STIs.>>>



BTW, Car and Driver said they got 0-60 in 4.6 seconds from the Evo X. Barely faster than the new WRX, but also keep in mind that they tested the stock Evo which is really setup wrong with a rich mixture. The Evo is truly running poorly stock and is supposed to be around 330HP, which is easily accomplished via a flash.

That's often missed in these tests. The Evo X TRUE stock HP rating defeated by an ECU setting that is way off the mark. So a badly tuned Evo X is faster than a new WRX. What happens when the Evo is flashed so it's running correctly?

And this is NOT the case for the new WRX, which is tuned very well stock.

I sure wish tests were done with a Evo X GSR that is setup the right way.



R.

Zivman

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[QUOTE=GoodCaptain;6620377]are you serious???

maybe they should allow for a restrictive exhaust and a weak stock clutch....

DeeezNuuuts83

That's irrelevant. Stock is stock, modded is modded, even if it's something as minor as an ECU reflash. Who's to say that reflashing a WRX won't yield better results as well? Just because you could get extra hp out of an engine by leaning out its already rich A/F mixture doesn't mean that the Evo X's 291 hp rating isn't its "true" rating. The same can be said for almost any car, seeing how the vast majority of cars are set up to run a little richer than necessary anyway to play it safe.

GoodCaptain

Even the folks at Mitsubishi service know the Evo X is badly tuned, running far too rich. It was done to avoid certain tax issues and the stock tune has the engine quite literally "running badly."

The Lancer Ralliart comes with some awful stock tires as well, but that has little to do with what the car really can do. In the case of the Evo X and Ralliart the cars are crippled by a bad tune and bad tires, but only uneducated drivers drive them that way.

Conversely Subaru has basically "modded" the WRX. It's not running rich, nor does it ride on bad tires. Sure it has some issues, but they are far more complex and expensive than a 500 dollar reflash.

R

Zivman

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just give it up

GoodCaptain

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Give what up?

There's NO evidence that a new WRX is faster than an Evo X. Not only that but the Evo X certainly handles better.

My point is that a stock X is a badly tuned car and suffers a serious loss of power over it. This is not the case for the WRX.

Now factor in the mandatory tune for the X....and add one to the WRX if you like, but the X is still ahead.



R.