CatalystGod

+1. Brand loyalty gets one nowhere. I'd definitely atleast consider it if it were available. But in all honesty, I would not cross-shop it with an Evo. Probably a mazdaspeed 3. The Evo and Focus are both rally cars but achieve the results in a very very different way. In my opinion, the only Common thing about them is that they are both rally cars and they both have a turbocharger. That's it.

CatalystGod

I do not know your reasoning for this, but I think your predisposition towards a mitsu is flawed. The RS was initially planned to have an AWD too. Probably not as good as the Evo, but its a possibility in the future considering they already planned and designed it with an AWD in mind.

Willie Dynamite

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Yeah, if the price was the same I'd take the Evo but if the RS was around $5k less I'd consider it.

Noticed you're in KOP, can't say I've seen a GG X yet.

Noize

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Turd polish is good stuff. You can make anything fast, but there are infinitely better choices out there for a track star than a Mustang.

While I agree completely that they do two different things and that no true Mustang lover would want a hotted up Focus, the Focus could do well in the USA, particularly if they'd use existing parts bin to make an AWD version.

An AWD turbo-5 Focus would be a niche car, but it would be a Mustang destroyer. Easily moddable due to factory forced induction, already built on a chassis that is one of the best handling FWD based platforms in the world, and a lot lighter weight.

There is everything to like about it. And from a purist standpoint of what a great car is about, its better than the Mustang all around. Nostalgia takes the back seat to real performance.

There was talk of a DI Evo X early on, but it was scrapped. I think that was wise, because DI is a huge hinderance in a tuner car, especially a turbocharged one. Look at the Mazda MZR and the BMW N54 for proof. They make good power to a point, but if you want a big turbo, there aren't parts available to fuel them adequately. There are also issues such as rev limit, throttle plates that shut, and HPFP issues in addition to the injectors.

WestSideBilly

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Mitsubishi sucks. If the cars were priced similarly and performed similarly, I'd take the Ford without hesitation. At least Ford honors their warranty.

redmachine

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^ +1

GPTourer

Seriously, you believe that Ford dealers are going to overlook boost controllers, piggy back fuel controllers, bigger turbos and dumped BOV's and cover everything for the toonerz if they do release that car here?

Nope.

GPTourer

Why would you bet that the Focus has better fit and finish then the Evo?

WestSideBilly

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Mitsubishi voided (and still voids) warranties on essentially stock cars with little or no cause. You don't remember the hundreds of Evo 8 owners who got shafted on their entire car warranty because they went to an auto-x event or put on a turbo timer? It hasn't gotten any better from what I've gathered.

I wouldn't expect Mitsubishi to fix an engine with a GT37R bolted on, but Mitsubishi's attitude is "**** you, you fix it".

GPTourer

I remember people saying that, but in my own personal experience, I have been treated very well by them. I remember them letting things slide when I worked for them that were more then just a turbo timer. And after I no longer worked for them and had to go to a different dealer for my own car, I got warranty work done with no hassles.

Willie Dynamite

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Don't you have to make a claim before they can void your warranty?

CatalystGod

Warranties cannot be voided, only claims made against warranties can be. It ensures that you are still covered for other stuff that might have been cause by no fault of yours.

Corey

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Your one of those that think American automakers still make primative engines and crappy cars and that all imports are completely flawless. You couldn't be more wrong. You heard about the Tacoma frame rust issues? Look it up cause there are about 850,000 of them being recalled and the frames basically rusting out from under them causing them to break in half.

Someone has some sense and just doesn't follow along with the American car bashing.

Because the euro Focus is a completely different car from the Focus we have here in the states. The only good thing about my Evo is the sterring wheel, seats, and shifter. Everything else is....well...plain.

The Mustang still sells great for a reason, cause its a good car that performs great, sounds great, looks is personal choice, and is affordable. I agree that if the RS was AWD it would kill the GT, but you also have the GT500 and the GT500 KR and thats not counting the ones coming out with the ECOboost and larger V8 in a few years. Not everyone autocrosses or goes to road courses. I never said it wasn't a better car, just giving the Mustang a little more credit than you and a few other people. I've owned two and they both did exactly what I wanted them to do and that was to go fast in a straight line for cheap. I can't complain one bit other than not having enough room for my two boys in the back. I'd still have my 500whp 04' if they fit back there.

GPTourer

Where did he bash the Focus? All he said was he prefers his Mitsu. Odd, that somone would show enthusiasm for a Mitsubishi on a Mitubishi Enthusiast Network site and get called out for it.
Until I can see, sit in and feel, drive one of these magical Fords that is head and shoulders above and so full of awesome over what we get here in the states, I just won't believe the hype. We as a culture always want what we can't have and always believe something somone else has to be so much better. I just don't think that way. American car makers have brought over Euro versions before and they haven't been 100% successful like they should be the way some people make them out to be. I am not saying the Focus is a bad car, I know the Euro Focus is better, but am I ready to assume its better then a Lancer in everyway and that I will automatically like it more then an Evo X?

No.

WestSideBilly

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Yes, but once your VIN is flagged, any warranty claim is denied. That's how a lot of Mitsu****ty regionals run.

Which is exactly what Mitsu****ty doesn't do.


I've had some really good service experiences and some really bad ones, regardless of brand. But in my experience, Ford dealers/RSMs are better about honoring warranty claims than Mitsubishi, which is at or near the bottom when it comes to service...