MRs RULE AND GSRS DROOL !!!!

 

But really I had a 06 STI and now obviously have an MR and I love both equally.

 

According to the numbers the MR is supposed to be quicker. But not all cars are the same and you have the driver issue.

 

I have a tuned MR with 320 wtq and did a launch in SST mode and I have to say it was amazing. For the first 3000 miles I loved the SST , then I went into a funk with it, now I really love it more then ever. I Hate the normal mode all around. I usually drove in sport auto but didnt like the gearing at times. I tried and just didn't feel connected with paddles. Now I drive in sport or super sport manual mode and shift with the stick . It just feels right to me. If I am at road coarse or Drag I use Super sport auto, its just tenacious. I have on a few occasions beat what felt like a similar powered cars just on the speed of shifts.

 

I have a IX but only because I didn't know if the X would have issues when it first came out. On the street I agree that the manual is more involving. But on the track left foot braking while driving at the limit, done right you are just as involved and will be faster. Just watch WRC and watch them dance on the pedals.

 

This thread is filled with ignorance and bias.

The SST is faster 90% of the time, deal with it. I don't have either and I plan on getting a 5 spd so I'm not biased. Based on facts, times, articles and not my personal opinion the sst will be faster in both the 1/4 and around the track.

Now asking if a MR is going to be faster than a GSR is a different question. The MR isn't identical to the GSR considering the weight gain and suspension change so one can't put blame on the SST for causing slower times. The SST will shift faster in every way which means you stay in boost longer and spend more time accelerating.

 

Where did you find this?

 

It depends on the driver..lol

 

GSR FTW!!!! lolz

 

I am mr and i am a winner

 

Why are people selling their MR'S then to get gsr's? They both great cars who cares! I could never see myself paddle shifting unless it's a GTR or a lambo....just takes the fun out of having complete control of the car with manual.

 

All the magazines use the MR for testing simply because it is supposed to be faster around a track, not because it necessarily is. If anyone can show me a stock GSR vs a stock MR I will bet the less weight of the GSR with more power stock and stiffer springs will be at least as fast around a track.

Once you mod the MR is not going to stand up to the GSR. I think both are great cars, but if the MR was so awesome then why don't any shops use it as their shop car for racing. AMS TA-X, Ryan Gates, both are champions and neither use the MR.

So I say again, the MR is more of a car aimed at people for DD'ing not racing at all.

 

That's primarily because sst upgrades are not readily available and will certainly cost more. Much like the gt-r, a car that was my dd before the mr, it is just a matter of time before upgrades are developed and available. If cost isn't a primary consideration, the sst can be upgraded to handle significant power and certainly be an advantage on the track.

 

Did you look at the build AMS did? I assure you cost was not a factor at all, there is probably 200k of labor/parts into that car.

If they really thought the SST was a big advantage they would've taken the time to develop something for it.

Mitsubishi tries to make it seem like the MR is a better performer to help justify the big jump in price from the GSR to help with sales. And in turn the magazines have bought into the hype from the manufacturer and that's why everyone tests the MR, because it is supposed to be better.

I mean it costs more, it has to be better right

 

It doesn't matter how much money AMS dumped into their car if SST parts weren't in development and they wanted to get the car pumped out fast. Furthermore, AMS knows there are any more Evo owners who can afford the cost of a manual transmission upgrade than a SST upgrade, as well as there being more manual transmissions out there, so they might want to focus on the manual transmissions for now. I'm not sure AMS even developed any transmission upgrades for their GT-R. As far as I know SSP, who also has nice components for the GT-R, is the company developing clutch upgrades for the SST.

I think dual clutch transmissions have proven themselves as far as improving performance numbers. The real problem is that some of these transmissions are not built with a ton of redundancy and require significant money to make them robust to handle heavy track days or massive power boosts. Even the GT-R transmission suffers from overheating on the track. That being said, as dual clutch transmissions become more standard, costs of development and upgrades will come down and there may come point where it is relatively cheap to upgrade these transmissions.

As for a stock to stock comparision, I have no idea which is marginally faster. IMO these cars aren't particulary quick from the factory and benefit from some tuning whether on the track or the road. I would definitely recommend the GSR for those who are more track oriented and want to be able to modify their cars relatively cheap. Personally, coming from the GT-R, I wouldn't have considered the Evo unless the MR existed. I wasn't looking for a track car so the MR touring fit the bill perfectly.