wiretap

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Good to know.

Webman

Explain to us why it's "wrong". While HIDs have generally been put in cars using projectors, it's absolutely untrue that all cars that have HID, use projectors. A great example is the 2007 Toyota Prius. Has HID headlights, but it is not a projector setup. Subaru now provides projectors on their higher end cars, but they are not HID bulbs.

So, I ask again, how is it wrong to put HID bulbs into a non-projector housing? I get what you're saying, that it's GHETTO when someone puts a purple 8000k bulb into a honda and calls it HID, but it isn't "wrong"

popdakebin

The only thing to worry about is glare. If you put it in a non projector housing, you need to make sure your lights reflect up. Because the halogen vs HID lamps could be different lengths, the reflection might be different. There are way to fix this if you cannot adjust your housing, which are glare shields. Some HID kits come with them now.

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Because it's the trend of what ricers do. The housings of the cars (like some older Lincoln's and the Prius) have a special reflector housing that is engineered specifically for those HID applications where it does not cause glare.

But go ahead and put some HID's in a reflector housing that wasn't designed for them so you can blind the decent motorists on the road, cause yourself to have scattered light output, have horrible visibility in adverse weather conditions, etc. It's all good as long as you have the cool looking colors.

If you want to talk about projectors on cars that don't have HID's, like my brother's 2007 Impreza, that isn't designed for HID's either. It has a bat wing in front of where the HID bulb would normally go, so that when you put a HID bulb in, it causes a huge shadow and upward reflection of light.

pstl_pete

I am one of those people that installed the SSS headlights into my base GSR and everything does plug in and work. HOWEVER, as mentioned you have to keep the headlights constantly on because the non-SSS package is setup up to power the main headlight as the DRL, so it sends a low voltage signal to your HID and it flickers for about 2 seconds and turns off.

I have been looking for a way around it, the wiring is the same so thats not the problem. I had the Mitsu MUTT tool hooked up to my car and there is an option in there to switch the car from NON-HID to HID but its locked and we couldnt do anything about it.

I have a friend looking into this who works for Mitsu and hopefully we can come up with a reasonable solution to make this work.

If you plan to put HIDs into your base-model GSR expect the same problem, youll have to run with your lights on all the time. I would rather switch to a brighter bulb then go with an aftermarket HID kit.

GPTourer

There is still a difference between projectors designed for halogen bulbs and projectors designed for HIDs. You might think you are getting "better" reults if you added a HID kit to a halogen projector equipped car, but there would still be inferior to a OEM setup because of the difference in cutoff, focal point, optics, etc.

I have a 6000K kit in my Eclipse with ebay halogen projectors and compared to the OEM setup in my Evo its just no where near as good. Its better then the basically two BIC lighters worth of light the projectors gave out with the H4 bulbs they used to have, but its a bit on the ricey side. I would like to cut in real halogen projectors some day and make it very useful.

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I linked the solution a few posts up.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...rls-works.html

zerocooll21

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Let me know if you are able to unlock that, I would rather do that then mess around with the fuse box. Thanks


Thanks for the link wiretap.

wiretap

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I had my dealership try the MUTIII tool as well. It was unable to turn off DRL's on my non-SSS car. I'll be doing the wiring work-around I linked in the near future.

zerocooll21

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Hmm Guess that will be the way to go. I'll probably just wait an get the projector housings and be done with it. Curious though, does anyone have any pictures of HID's with halogen headlamps?

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Fidget253

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well im pulling the trigger on custom headlights, im going to have cincity designs retrofit me a custom pair of HID headlights out of the Base GSR headlights, should be sooooo sick.

Its gonna be dual projectors :-)

erniebu

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ewww... the non-projector headlights look horrible...

tephra

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I might be doing this soon.

So its just a straight swap?

What do you mean by having to leave the headlights on all the time?

I do that by default anyways.. but you make it seem like they dont work if you dont leave them on 100%?

EDIT - read above posts, ok you can ignore this

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By leaving them on all the time, he means he still has DRL enabled on his non-SSS car. That means it sends a lower voltage square wave to the headlight in DRL mode which causes the HID's to flicker. To solve that he as left the headlight switch in the 'on' position so it feeds them it's full DC constant voltage. The ways around that are to use a special harness with a capacitor & relay, or use the link I had posted in post #37 which disables the DRL's completely so you can drive around without the HID's on and just flip your headlights to the 'on' position when you want them turned on.