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Old Nov 8, 2010, 04:24 PM
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How to get the best visibility out of the stock HID headlight setup?

Hey guys, I live in a semi rural area with a significant amount of deer in the area. I would like to avoid starting a thread with deer strike damage so I am looking for ways to maximize visibility.

First I decided to convert the fogs to HID's so I bought a Xentec conversion kit off eBay and have no regrets except I believe I picked the wrong temperature. I knew 4300 is the best for light output but wanted the nice slightly blue look of acura's so I swicthed to 6000k. I decided to make the headlights match so I bought a set of 6000k bulbs off eBay as well.

The new setup looks great but visibility is diminished. I am not sure if it's because of the color or because I used eBay bulbs. The bulbs look almost identical to the OEM ones but light output seems diminished. For those with this experience is it common knowledge to lose a significant amount of output by switching from 4300 to 6000k, or is this an action of the cheaper bulbs?

What would be the optimum setup to maximize lighting for spoting deer without going all rally style and bolting a light bar on the roof?

Has anyone here switched to ZKWR lenses? I read that they provide a much wider even spread.

I don't mind the work or risk if that is what is neccessary. I would swicth to dual projectors but that type of work is not in the budget as I don't know how to do that myself.

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mmmmmm light bar
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well the higher u go away from 3000k, the less bright itll be, regardless what brand. if u wanted bright, why not just put on 4300k for the headlights and 3000k for the fogs. itll look good and help u alot
Old Nov 8, 2010, 05:17 PM
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My stock lights are much better once I aimed them a bit higher than how the factory set them. I don't think you're going to get more light output by using any eBay/Chinese bulbs.
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Originally Posted by laxplayer14
well the higher u go away from 3000k, the less bright itll be, regardless what brand. if u wanted bright, why not just put on 4300k for the headlights and 3000k for the fogs. itll look good and help u alot
I think 3000k are yellow, and I really don't personally like yellow fogs...I know they work well in....fog....but that's not what I need them for.

Maybe it's best to put my factory 4300 headlight bulbs back in and just get 4300k fogs.

Can fogs be converted to wide angle projectors?


So I guess no one here has any experience with ZKWR lenses huh?

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Originally Posted by Kracka
My stock lights are much better once I aimed them a bit higher than how the factory set them. I don't think you're going to get more light output by using any eBay/Chinese bulbs.
Yeah, I just didn't want to pay for "branding". I like a quality part like the next guy, but don't like to pay extra for something just for it's name.

I have a feeling that the 6000k bulbs output almost the same light, but look so different to your eye that it appears to not provide as much...hard to say actually.


hmmm...some stealth projectors behind the grill on top might be cool

I really need to read more about ZKWR lenses....

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You need a 'deer/wildlife' whistle. Even if you see the deer, the more lights you have, the more attracted they get to them. So it's not really a win win. They get stupid around such bright lights too.

Get a siren or a whistle and you're safer.
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Corrected my post to read ZKWR lenses....not ZFR, Sorry

In my experience whistles do not work!
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ZKWR lenses have much more light output. I've read a lot of guys that put them in and say it's a world of difference. I'm putting them in this winter. Go to DDMtuning.com and buy bulbs from them. Less than $20 a pair and they are great. I put 10ks in the headlights and 3500s (I think) for fogs and I think the light output is a ton more. The lenses are only $40. But yes, deer/wildlife whistlers are the way to do it (although I hate them, it's better than hitting a deer). Just make sure to hide them.
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Hmmm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l4F9vrmtQQ

http://www.bioacoustics.uconn.edu/re...26%20FINAL.pdf


***** it.....just ordered the ZKWR lenses, can't hurt!
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.....you just need allstate.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OH_gUt4Oww
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Originally Posted by tsitalon1
I have a feeling that the 6000k bulbs output almost the same light, but look so different to your eye that it appears to not provide as much...hard to say actually.
6000k put out less light than stock, 4300k will have the highest light output.
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Yep, I know and I will switch back to 4300k, add ZKW-R lenses and use 4300K fogs

My point was I think he loss of light was also exaggerated by the difference in visible color...
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I'm waiting on my ZKW-R lenses to arrive:

Does anyone have any steps to getting the actual projectors out so I can swap the lenses?
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maybe upgrade ballasts to 55watt? im sure u will gain more distance and brightness


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