Shifter wiggles after installed short shifter and bushings
#1
[SOLVED] Shifter wiggles after installed short shifter and bushings
I installed TWM short shifter + under hood shifter cable bushing over a week ago, the shifter really works except now in each gear the shifter wiggles by quite much, definitely more than when it was stock. By wiggling, I mean if I grab the shifter knob doing a left-right motion while in any gear, the shifter wiggles quite bit, gives you a very loose feeling.
I notice the 1st, 2nd, 5th and reverse gears wiggle the most since they are on the outside. 1st and 2nd wiggles toward left, and 5th and reverse toward right.
The wiggling only happens on the left-right direction.
I have searched the forum and google, no one has mentioned anything like this.
UPDATE:
The issue is NOT created by TWM short shifter components at all. If this thread misled anyone into thinking that, my true apology to TWM. They are a great company, and I will probably order more things from them in the future again.
The problem is due to missing a small piece of white nylon cap at the tip of the shifter arm. The cap is suspected to have fallen out during pulling the arm out for bushing installation. And again to TWM's defense, they actually mention this part in their installation guide to put it back once you have bushing installed.
Here is the picture of where the cap (it's actually replaced with the aftermarket part, but you get the idea) part is supposed to be :
Members in forum with the same issue solved it with two solutions:
1. Aftermarket part
2. Stock part
I personally haven't verified them, but will probably order the stock part soon. Thanks everyone!
I notice the 1st, 2nd, 5th and reverse gears wiggle the most since they are on the outside. 1st and 2nd wiggles toward left, and 5th and reverse toward right.
The wiggling only happens on the left-right direction.
I have searched the forum and google, no one has mentioned anything like this.
UPDATE:
The issue is NOT created by TWM short shifter components at all. If this thread misled anyone into thinking that, my true apology to TWM. They are a great company, and I will probably order more things from them in the future again.
The problem is due to missing a small piece of white nylon cap at the tip of the shifter arm. The cap is suspected to have fallen out during pulling the arm out for bushing installation. And again to TWM's defense, they actually mention this part in their installation guide to put it back once you have bushing installed.
Here is the picture of where the cap (it's actually replaced with the aftermarket part, but you get the idea) part is supposed to be :
Members in forum with the same issue solved it with two solutions:
1. Aftermarket part
2. Stock part
I personally haven't verified them, but will probably order the stock part soon. Thanks everyone!
Last edited by nessus; Nov 26, 2011 at 09:40 AM. Reason: issue is solved, post solution
#2
make sure the shifter is sitting all the way in the white plastic rectangle it gets clamped into on the bottom
my clamp popped off and the shifter was not 100% in the white plastic piece and felt loose
my clamp popped off and the shifter was not 100% in the white plastic piece and felt loose
#4
had mine installs and wiggles too. it's really not a problem though as long as you shift right...
i drove my friends gti and si with a short shifter and it was like 1000x worse actually making me nervous about missing gears
i drove my friends gti and si with a short shifter and it was like 1000x worse actually making me nervous about missing gears
#6
I think there is no problem personally. If that thing didn't wiggle and was indeed 110% snug... I can imagine that you'd be hitting gates and prob snap something when driving "spiritedly". I agree that the stock shifter eliminates some of this problem, but then again stock isn't a performance short shifter.
#7
If your shifter feels looser than stock then you definitely have a problem so look over everything and fix as needed.
My shifter feels nice and tight/solid compared to stock, which is the reason to upgrade the bushings in the first place. By tight I don't mean hard to move, I mean no slop.
-WORKS short shifter
-WORKS underhood bushings
-WORKS console bushings
-AMS pivot gate bushing
My shifter feels nice and tight/solid compared to stock, which is the reason to upgrade the bushings in the first place. By tight I don't mean hard to move, I mean no slop.
-WORKS short shifter
-WORKS underhood bushings
-WORKS console bushings
-AMS pivot gate bushing
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#8
If your shifter feels looser than stock then you definitely have a problem so look over everything and fix as needed.
My shifter feels nice and tight/solid compared to stock, which is the reason to upgrade the bushings in the first place. By tight I don't mean hard to move, I mean no slop.
-WORKS short shifter
-WORKS underhood bushings
-WORKS console bushings
-AMS pivot gate bushing
My shifter feels nice and tight/solid compared to stock, which is the reason to upgrade the bushings in the first place. By tight I don't mean hard to move, I mean no slop.
-WORKS short shifter
-WORKS underhood bushings
-WORKS console bushings
-AMS pivot gate bushing
#10
um, interesting. I have spent almost a full day with my friend, none of us could see anything we had done wrong during installation. But I will look more again for sure. Maybe I should just make a short video to let pple see if its properly installed or not.
#11
video link posted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDOeAXQQDic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDOeAXQQDic
#12
^Based on that video, something is definitely not right. I would take it apart again and try shifting with the base exposed so you can see all the moving parts to see if anything stands out as weird. I honestly can't think of what might be causing that...
#14
At this point I would really like to see if any other X owners with the same twm shifter/busings installed have the same situation?
#15
USDM 2008 and 2010 shifters cable bushings are NOT the same. I'm not sure about Canadian cars though, let me look around a bit...
*edit*
From AMS' website:
"Please note, Not all AMS EVO X 5 speed shifter bushings are the same. US models built before Aug 2008 take two sets of bushings with an inside diameter of 21.5mm. US Models built after Aug 2008 & some Non US Models however take two much larger bushings measuring in 33.7mm. If you are ordering from overseas please make sure to take time to measure your car for the correct set. To do this simply find the two cables as they attach to the top of the transmission. Push out one of the bushings and measure the inside diameter of the opening. If your cable opening is within 1mm of the US Version that is the bushing set you need. If it is within 1 mm of the NON US version then please select the NON US version. Please do not assume that if your car is not a US model that you will need the NON us version. It can be different based on the country you reside in. Please take the time to measure to be certain. AMS will not be held responsible if the incorrect bushings are ordered."
http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/A...-Bushings.html
AMS and WORKS both offer separate kits for proper fitment.
*edit*
From AMS' website:
"Please note, Not all AMS EVO X 5 speed shifter bushings are the same. US models built before Aug 2008 take two sets of bushings with an inside diameter of 21.5mm. US Models built after Aug 2008 & some Non US Models however take two much larger bushings measuring in 33.7mm. If you are ordering from overseas please make sure to take time to measure your car for the correct set. To do this simply find the two cables as they attach to the top of the transmission. Push out one of the bushings and measure the inside diameter of the opening. If your cable opening is within 1mm of the US Version that is the bushing set you need. If it is within 1 mm of the NON US version then please select the NON US version. Please do not assume that if your car is not a US model that you will need the NON us version. It can be different based on the country you reside in. Please take the time to measure to be certain. AMS will not be held responsible if the incorrect bushings are ordered."
http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/A...-Bushings.html
AMS and WORKS both offer separate kits for proper fitment.
Last edited by Kracka; Dec 13, 2010 at 07:55 PM.