Kracka

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1. The more time goes on the more servicable the Evo's SST and the GT-R's tranny will become. SSP has already made great strides with both transmissions over the past few years.
2. The Evo X also uses a timing chain, ordinarily chains do not need replacement and have no recommended service interval. Most new cars are like this.
3. GT-R's should only be taken to authorized GT-R Nissan dealers for service.

T6

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Yes you are right, I dont need the 4 door but I love having it. I wont be getting married anytime soon nor will I be having babies as I know when and how to pull out... But I am not interested in spending more than I want which is why I am going to wait till I am more comfy taking care of the GTR lol.

Aye good one. The only thing about GTR is the whole under 100k sticker price. They dont add the extra thousand(s) of maintenance fees a year lol.

vtec fever

Im new to this but what a bout a hta 86 kurbo kit, my friend had one (fully built motor ofcours) and he has had gtr owners in shock lol after he gets out on them.

Evo Izzy

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The new GTR was appealing to me... But, after reading this I'm not sure I would want to deal with it...

Izzy

aftershock141

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I believe they no longer void the warranty on 2012's when you turn the VSC off due to new launch maps, etc. that utilize a lower rpm. This also puts less strain on the transmission which in turn results in fewer failed transmissions. I will be saving for a used one of these in two years when my 0% loan is up on the Evo.

highlyevolved

Page GTR-9 in the owner's manual of a 2012 GTR:

Damage to the powertrain or any
drivetrain component(s) that occurs
when there is a record in the Vehicle
Status Data Recorder (VSDR) that
the vehicle was driven with VDC off
during the period when the damage
was incurred is excluded from warranty
coverage.

Supraboy1

This link doesnt work. Please make sure links work before posting please

highlyevolved

Unfortunately it doesn't look like we have to ability to link to other forums for some reason? Here's an alternate link to the 2012 owner's manual:

Here

Supraboy1

I am not trying to start a flame fest... But I see ZERO reason to, ever drive with the Traction control, stability control systems off. Note I said DRIVE...

Sure its fun to watch TOP GEAR and see those morons, and very laughable so, tear and shred tires. But its extremely hard on the drive train, engine, and most importantly VERY expensive for tires.

highlyevolved

It's not so much about missing actually driving with VDC off - although I would argue it's probably a lot more fun to drive the car that way with the nanny's off, ASC off in the Evo = fun sideways action - it's been Nissan's whole philosophy about black box monitoring, big brother watching your every move - voiding warranty for using launch control (no longer an issue), voiding warranty for going to the track, voiding warranty for turning VDC off - it's a whole history of "hey, here's this super car, now only drive the speed limit on public roads".

Porsche dealerships would never do that.

Supraboy1

Well lets set the background.... Porsche...VERY specifically... You must adhere to their warranty tables or warranty VOID..Porsche 4/50k mile

Nissan 3/36 mile on everything. 5 year 60K on Powertrain. Extended warranty thru Nissan, and I checked this one cause I really want to get a GTR... 100K mile everything.. 5600 bucks.

100K mile warranty on Porsche... 15K plus depending on car. NO THANKS.

Nzo

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Point is its a feature that comes with the car. If I cant use it why is it there?

highlyevolved

So by your own admission, Porsche has the longer comprehensive warranty, not to mention the only caveat is you have to adhere to the maintenance intervals, which is generally true of every warranty?

And a 100k mile extended warranty on the GTR still only seems to last 5 years, so that's just one year longer then the standard Porsche warranty.

Anyway, it's great you decided on a GTR, those compromises obviously aren't a deal breaker for you. Besides all this talk of warranty is out the window as soon as you decide to modify anyway, which is inevitable in cars like the GTR and 911 Turbo.

Personally, I'd rather have a little less warranty and use the car how I want vs. having a little more warranty and being tied to Nissan's specific rules of use.

If Nissan really wanted to sell me a super car, they would have stood by their product starting in 2008 when they first sold them, instead of voiding a bunch of warranty claims over launch control. To me, Porsche is the clear winner in terms of companies who stand behind their sports cars.

highlyevolved

This thread got a little off track didn't it

Personally I think it's a bit of a losing battle to try to compete with the GTR in a roll race. For the money invested in the Evo to compete and the money lost due to compromised reliability, you might as well just jump into a GTR if you can afford it anyway.

Also I think the 2012 changes for the GTR are a bit overblown. It seems like the biggest thing they did was fit better tires and improve launch control to better compete with the PDK 911 Turbo - the actual car didn't change that much. You can easily make a 2009 GTR beat a 2012 GTR for very little money if you don't mind modifying.

lowkey

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Sure, if you sink $20K into the motor you can beat the GTR. But, after a couple of years most people are bored and want a new car. You will never recoup your $20 grand whereas a used GTR will still have a fairly high trade in value.