LOL yah it did get off track Sorry about that.

Yah and when you sink that 20k into the Evo, the daily driving aspect of it goes out the window fast. I love my Evo, it's a great performance car for priceerformance ratio. Very hard to beat, especially when you add some light modding.

The 2012 GT-R is a bit nutso. Watch Edmunds comparison. Without turning this into a huge debate, you can get the Evo close to a STOCK GT-R with a few light mods. http://www.insideline.com/mitsubishi...mprobable.html

 

I honestly think the evo is trumped on this one, no matter how much money you spend on it it will never be as fast as a GT-R ( unless your talking about completly turning them into race cars) but for the street just look at AMS and the ALPHA packages for the GT-R I mean 8 SECONDS........full interior.

 

If you wanted to race GTR's you should have started with car with more speed-modification potential. Like an IX, VIII, or 2JZGTE Supra

 

Exactly. That just further proves my point. The warranty will only be voided if the transmission incurs damage during the period that the VDC is turned off.

 

fp Black with supporting mods evo8 33psi on meth.
give a gtr a run to 140.

 

I'd bet a FP GREEN/RED X would put up a damn good fight in the 1/4 mile. I know thats not roll racing, but the GTR isn't that fast of a car stock. Mid 11s @ low to mid 120s isn't impossible to beat. For a roll race, you'd need a Black, 35R, 6262 etc to beat one, and even still once we hit 5th gear its over, and the GTR will pass us most likely.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl6W5VWh8tw

Just as fast as the vast majority of stock GTRs....and the end of the day its a 420whp 3800# car, excluding the 12'.


But then you could do this to the GTR http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed2pJkuosD0


Also if you plan on modding the GTR above 600whp plan on the dodson upgrades, that or don't be a ***** when you have to pay 20k for a tranny.(cheaper just to upgrade)

 

1: I agree, it will take a bit more time but in the end they will make better parts just as they did on the sst.

2: I really did not know that, thanks

3: That is a big big no no where I am. They only know how to sell it but when you take it to the back, they cannot even plug in the oil holder (which honestly can happen to anyone but how often?) Not to mention the fact that ordering parts for the GTR was a terrible mess (wrong parts were order twice in a row), also the fact that they didnt even know how to plug the undertray back and ended up on the road before you pulling out of the service area. Of course this is all I have heard and cannot prove. Even a rumor like that I wouldnt let them touch my evo let alone a GTR...

 

Wow, there is a reason why a GTR costs twice as much than an Evo X MR but, I have to admit that seeing an Evo destroy mighty Godzilla wouldn't sound too far out from the box... It all comes down to how deep you are willing to spend to get there.

 

v8 conversion? lol, or major weight reduction.... get the x down to 2500-2600lbs and with 450hp and a quick(ish) spooling turbo you'll keep up if not stomp it.

also the new gt-r have fairly low failure rates on the transmissions because of the new launch maps.

also a 2012 will depreciate more than 20k in a few years. The 2008-2010 have not been holding their value very well at all.

 

That's why I'm going to try and pick up a used one. Can't wait!

 

Same in the next couple years. Hopefully will be sending it off to AMS for the Alpha 12 package, rather quickly aswell. 170mph+ traps are calling my name

 

Yep, I have seen used ones with fairly low miles for around 60K.

On a side note, how much more can you reduce weight wise on a stock X to bring it down to near 3000 lbs? I know spare tire and stock exhaust removal will net aprox. 70 to 80lbs?

 

I can spend 20k$ on built motor and turbo. But if I need 35r or bigger turbo to keep up with gtrs, It will be easier for me to just sell the evo. Turbo such big will make my car completely useless in dd and winter driving. I need low end torque. Biggest turbo I'm willing to buy is RED/GT30R. Pump gas only.

 

Did you not watch the video I posted? That is a 400whp Evo X running those times. That is as quick as the majority of GTRs.

Why are you so set on beating GTRs, how often do you even run into a GTR, especially one that wants to race you? The car I wanna be able to beat is Corvette GS or any LS3 Corvette from any speed race, and I plan to do this with a true Mustang Dyno 400whp car.

If you want a car that will truly be able to walk on GTRs from a roll you're going to need a true 500whp Evo, and to get that on pump gas you're gonna need a FP black, 6262, or 35R with all the goodies...

Also if this car is your DD and you want it to beat GTRs you'll need 500whp, and at that point I wouldn't consider driving it as a daily anymore. You may want to reconsider car choices.

 

Realistically, an Evo with an FP Black and all supporting mods running on E-85 would give a stock GTR a run for its money and maybe even beat it up until a certain speed where the lack of gearing and poor aerodynamics really hinder the Evo. Keep in mind, however, that this is not the type of racing an Evo was designed for or excels at.

The gearing of an Evo make it perfect for very quick bursts of speed while at lower speeds. Matched with AWD and relatively light weight (after some basic weight reduction such as aftermarket turboback exhaust, removal of spare tire and tools etc...) providing almost unreal traction off the line; a mildly modified Evo can destroy much more powerful vehicles in shorter races such as the 1/8 mile and especially stoplight to stoplight (although I am not encouraging such things).

While the gearing combined with AWD make the Evo incredible off the line and at low speeds, it hinders the Evo at higher speeds (the Evo falls on its face after the shift into fifth gear). Roll racing is simply not what the Evo was designed for, and the faster the speed, the worse the Evo will likely do.

If you want to roll race and beat GTRs' (even modified GTRs) at highway speeds, in my opinion you have th ewrong vehicle to do it with. I would consider trading in the Evo for a 2001-2003 Corvette C5 Z06. Heads/Cam and other bolt-ons and the Z06 is an absolute monster, especially from a roll. Throw some boost at it and you will hold your own against most GTRs out there.