How Do You Approach a Corner with an Evo
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I was wondering the same question when I first bought the car because I had stock suspension/handling components; I felt the springs were too bouncy (for a smoother ride) and it made my turning experience not as enjoyable as it is now.
To be honest, I learned the basics from years of Gran Turismo and Forza experience (I bought the steering wheel and cockpit for those games and it made a world of a difference than using the handheld controllers)!!! LOL!!!!! It's a lot cheaper than auto-x/track events (but maybe not as much fun) and it does give you a good foundation of how all types of cars handle. Then when the time comes and you are ok with rear wheel drive cars/counter steering, I'd recommend upgrading the springs (lower the car a bit), rear sway bar (adjustable), and the rear differential (to a 12 plate 1.5 way). Get rid of that understeer with throttle oversteer!!!
For now, stick to the basics and either take a lesson, upgrade the suspension on the car, or all of the above. Enjoy!!!
To be honest, I learned the basics from years of Gran Turismo and Forza experience (I bought the steering wheel and cockpit for those games and it made a world of a difference than using the handheld controllers)!!! LOL!!!!! It's a lot cheaper than auto-x/track events (but maybe not as much fun) and it does give you a good foundation of how all types of cars handle. Then when the time comes and you are ok with rear wheel drive cars/counter steering, I'd recommend upgrading the springs (lower the car a bit), rear sway bar (adjustable), and the rear differential (to a 12 plate 1.5 way). Get rid of that understeer with throttle oversteer!!!
For now, stick to the basics and either take a lesson, upgrade the suspension on the car, or all of the above. Enjoy!!!
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The same people that drive Lancer ES's and ask you if your Evo came with a turbo or you had to install it after; same ones that need understeer as a safety catch for trying to turn the wheel and drive at the same time.
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as are most AWD cars... until you apply more power. Brake more prior to corner, use throttle to get you through the corner better. I know that is fairly common knowledge, just thought I would throw that out there to help your point not trying to correct you in any way.
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I was wondering the same question when I first bought the car because I had stock suspension/handling components; I felt the springs were too bouncy (for a smoother ride) and it made my turning experience not as enjoyable as it is now.
To be honest, I learned the basics from years of Gran Turismo and Forza experience (I bought the steering wheel and cockpit for those games and it made a world of a difference than using the handheld controllers)!!! LOL!!!!! It's a lot cheaper than auto-x/track events (but maybe not as much fun) and it does give you a good foundation of how all types of cars handle. Then when the time comes and you are ok with rear wheel drive cars/counter steering, I'd recommend upgrading the springs (lower the car a bit), rear sway bar (adjustable), and the rear differential (to a 12 plate 1.5 way). Get rid of that understeer with throttle oversteer!!!
For now, stick to the basics and either take a lesson, upgrade the suspension on the car, or all of the above. Enjoy!!!
To be honest, I learned the basics from years of Gran Turismo and Forza experience (I bought the steering wheel and cockpit for those games and it made a world of a difference than using the handheld controllers)!!! LOL!!!!! It's a lot cheaper than auto-x/track events (but maybe not as much fun) and it does give you a good foundation of how all types of cars handle. Then when the time comes and you are ok with rear wheel drive cars/counter steering, I'd recommend upgrading the springs (lower the car a bit), rear sway bar (adjustable), and the rear differential (to a 12 plate 1.5 way). Get rid of that understeer with throttle oversteer!!!
For now, stick to the basics and either take a lesson, upgrade the suspension on the car, or all of the above. Enjoy!!!
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As an Englishman I would never just approach a corner; I would wait to be formally introduced.
Anyho, I'm not sure why people are suggesting driving the Evo like a FWD car. Having driven all FWD cars up until I got an Evo I was shocked at how different they behaved when cornering. If your not convinced compare how they behave on mid-corner lift-off. In a FWD it will straighten up, in the Evo it will snap oversteer you into the nearest tree.
Anyho, I'm not sure why people are suggesting driving the Evo like a FWD car. Having driven all FWD cars up until I got an Evo I was shocked at how different they behaved when cornering. If your not convinced compare how they behave on mid-corner lift-off. In a FWD it will straighten up, in the Evo it will snap oversteer you into the nearest tree.
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Back to how the tech works, I found that this description works best to explain what the car is doing in a turn. It's direct from Mitsu training resources.
In a turn, the vehicle enters the corner with both rear wheels receiving almost equal torque. The center differential is engaged to give all the wheels (front to rear) as close to equal traction as possible. As the car enters the first half of the turn the ACD will release to give independence of the center differential to allow turning. The AYC will transfer torque to the outer wheel throughout the turn.When the vehicle starts to exit the turn (steering straightens and throttle angle increases) the ACD engages to transfer the torque front to rear. The exit of the corner has the AYC directional valve and proportional valves de-energize to balance the torque left to right in the rear axle set.
Sensing the situation: the case of understeer
S-AWC measures your speed and steering input, and calculates how much the car should be turning based on that data. In this case, you should be progressing through a turn. The yaw rate sensor, a mechanism that measures the rate of lateral force on the car, tells S-AWC how much the car is actually turning. In this case, the car is still moving forward, due to slippery conditions or excessive speed. S-AWC takes the feedback from the yaw rate sensor and compares it to the calculation. If the actual behavior of the car does not match the calculations, it judges the car to be in a skid, and takes action to help make the car’s actual performance congruent with the steering inputs.
Corrective action: Torque transfer and brakes
First, S-AWC will employ AYC to transfer torque from the inside rear wheels to the outside rear wheels. Giving the car more power on the outside will help it to dig in and move the car through the turn. S-AWC again compares feedback from the yaw rate sensor to the calculation to see whether the attitude of the vehicle is in line with the steering inputs. If it has not, S-AWC will then employ the inside front brake, to help turn the nose of the car.
In the event of oversteer, also called “fishtailing” or “power sliding”, S-AWC corrects in exactly the opposite way, by transferring torque from the outside to the inside rear wheels, and by applying brake pressure to the outside front wheel.
In a turn, the vehicle enters the corner with both rear wheels receiving almost equal torque. The center differential is engaged to give all the wheels (front to rear) as close to equal traction as possible. As the car enters the first half of the turn the ACD will release to give independence of the center differential to allow turning. The AYC will transfer torque to the outer wheel throughout the turn.When the vehicle starts to exit the turn (steering straightens and throttle angle increases) the ACD engages to transfer the torque front to rear. The exit of the corner has the AYC directional valve and proportional valves de-energize to balance the torque left to right in the rear axle set.
Sensing the situation: the case of understeer
S-AWC measures your speed and steering input, and calculates how much the car should be turning based on that data. In this case, you should be progressing through a turn. The yaw rate sensor, a mechanism that measures the rate of lateral force on the car, tells S-AWC how much the car is actually turning. In this case, the car is still moving forward, due to slippery conditions or excessive speed. S-AWC takes the feedback from the yaw rate sensor and compares it to the calculation. If the actual behavior of the car does not match the calculations, it judges the car to be in a skid, and takes action to help make the car’s actual performance congruent with the steering inputs.
Corrective action: Torque transfer and brakes
First, S-AWC will employ AYC to transfer torque from the inside rear wheels to the outside rear wheels. Giving the car more power on the outside will help it to dig in and move the car through the turn. S-AWC again compares feedback from the yaw rate sensor to the calculation to see whether the attitude of the vehicle is in line with the steering inputs. If it has not, S-AWC will then employ the inside front brake, to help turn the nose of the car.
In the event of oversteer, also called “fishtailing” or “power sliding”, S-AWC corrects in exactly the opposite way, by transferring torque from the outside to the inside rear wheels, and by applying brake pressure to the outside front wheel.
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wheels straight. brake hard.
off brake, turn in, on gas hard. the car will pull you around.
people are making it sound harder than it really is. turning isnt the hard part. its the timing of your brake/turn/gas complete exercise that is tough to master.
off brake, turn in, on gas hard. the car will pull you around.
people are making it sound harder than it really is. turning isnt the hard part. its the timing of your brake/turn/gas complete exercise that is tough to master.
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