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Planning to go for the Cosworth MX1 Cams for my EVO X

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Old Oct 27, 2012, 09:04 AM
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Planning to go for the Cosworth MX1 Cams for my EVO X

Hi, I am planning to go for MX1 Cam.

Not planning to go for Turbo upgrade for another 1 year but heard that the MX1 can enhance low to mid performance on Stock Turbo.

Any take on this ? Anyone on stock turbo and MX1 who can share their experience?

Thanks in advance.
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Cossworth makes great cams. You won't regret. I would surely do cossi over kelford
Old Oct 28, 2012, 05:25 AM
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Hi Apagan01, thanks for sharing . I have another week before making a decision. I am still reading up and lots of +1 for Cossi.

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Cossworth makes great cams. You won't regret. I would surely do cossi over kelford
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from the amount of time I have spent on this forum, most people who go with a "stage 1" cam usually regret not getting the "stage 2" right off the bat. Much better gains and practically no loss of driveability. I was in the same boat as you, debating between GSC S1 and S2 cams. I chose the S2s and am super happy I did. Woke the car up alot. I am also on stock turbo.
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Originally Posted by escodotcarter
from the amount of time I have spent on this forum, most people who go with a "stage 1" cam usually regret not getting the "stage 2" right off the bat. Much better gains and practically no loss of driveability. I was in the same boat as you, debating between GSC S1 and S2 cams. I chose the S2s and am super happy I did. Woke the car up alot. I am also on stock turbo.
Hi Escodotcarter, thanks for sharing. How about idling? Is it stable? I ferry my family in this car too so it has to have a certain degree of comfort. Can you comment on that?

Thank you

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Hi Escodotcarter, thanks for sharing. How about idling? Is it stable? I ferry my family in this car too so it has to have a certain degree of comfort. Can you comment on that?

Thank you
My Idle is set at 1050 rpms and it does not move. You DO hear the cam "lope" but the actual idle rpm does not jump around. Stop and Go driving is same as stock. This is all in the tune so make sure you get someone that knows what they are doing.
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i had MX1 with stock turbo ( now with BBX FULL and MX1 )
if u are going for Cossworth MX1 u can use your stock Valve Spring
GSC u will need to upgrade the Valve Spring
that is the deal on both cams

anyways its your choice and taste good luck!
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Originally Posted by genelee112601
i had MX1 with stock turbo ( now with BBX FULL and MX1 )
if u are going for Cossworth MX1 u can use your stock Valve Spring
GSC u will need to upgrade the Valve Spring
might as well while its all open. Remember, do it right the first time.

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Originally Posted by escodotcarter
My Idle is set at 1050 rpms and it does not move. You DO hear the cam "lope" but the actual idle rpm does not jump around. Stop and Go driving is same as stock. This is all in the tune so make sure you get someone that knows what they are doing.
Thanks escodocarter! I will speak with some tuners around about this. Will be checking out some evos with GSC S1 and 2 and Cosworth.

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i had MX1 with stock turbo ( now with BBX FULL and MX1 )
if u are going for Cossworth MX1 u can use your stock Valve Spring
GSC u will need to upgrade the Valve Spring
that is the deal on both cams

anyways its your choice and taste good luck!
Thanks genelee..good consideration on savings on the springs..

escodocarter does have a point too; to stage the car for a turbo upgrade. However, I have to consider my daily driving in the streets of Singapore. Its traffic lights every 100m in the city . I spend about 30% of driving time on highway and the rest city and town driving. As such, drivability is one main consideration. Hence, a turbo upgrade has to be well planned or scrapped to be on the safe side (avoid lag issues).

Correct me if my concept of turbo upgrade is misconstrued. Thanks.
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anyone else care to poll? thanks for reading
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Bump for POLL. thanks guys.
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Originally Posted by limmartin
However, I have to consider my daily driving in the streets of Singapore. Its traffic lights every 100m in the city . I spend about 30% of driving time on highway and the rest city and town driving. As such, drivability is one main consideration.
Then, you don't want aftermarket cams. Good luck.
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Pretty sure I *JUST* posted this in another thread but....cams + stock turbo = meh.

Upgrade to an EF2 or BBX Lite first. Stock longblock. Do it.

When you do upgrade cams (after you upgrade your turbo...right!?) I'd go Kelford 214-B's. I have them and they idle super nice and make great power. S2's are a little more badass, great cams too but not *quite* as driveable for a dd imho.
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Originally Posted by FJF
Then, you don't want aftermarket cams. Good luck.
Thanks for the advice FJF..will have to think harder then...

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Originally Posted by FJF
Then, you don't want aftermarket cams. Good luck.
Originally Posted by scheides
Pretty sure I *JUST* posted this in another thread but....cams + stock turbo = meh.

Upgrade to an EF2 or BBX Lite first. Stock longblock. Do it.

When you do upgrade cams (after you upgrade your turbo...right!?) I'd go Kelford 214-B's. I have them and they idle super nice and make great power. S2's are a little more badass, great cams too but not *quite* as driveable for a dd imho.
hey Sheides, many thanks too. I am now reading up more and speaking with my regular garge about this. Don't want to spend money and get just MEH results. Perhaps FJF's take is sound, if unsure "stay stock!".. Driveability is key for my part of the world.


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